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Do any other girls find it hard to make friends with other girls becoz they look well

  • 16-01-2005 4:38pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    I don't want to sound really vain, but when ever i go out, blokes will always come up to me ... same in work ... anyway the same thing always happens when i start a new job , the blokes will stare at me and this will piss off the other girls and they won't talk to me ...
    i find it hard to be friends with other girls , they'll go out and not invite me or if a fella is chatting me up anywhere , the min my back is turned the other girls will tell the fella that i have something wrong wit me ... sometimes i don't even like walking out by myself becoz in my local area i'm like a celeb .. (i don't know y) and guys will always whistle and all that .. i don't mind that .. but girls will come up and try to fight wit me .. (people i don't even know) in shopping centres niteclubs etc etc ...
    are there any other lasses that experence this ? or have you ever bullied someone over being jealous ? Why ??
    i'm 23 (but look younger) and ALWAYS since i was 16 have other girls bitchin about me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    take comfort in the fact that your hot and they are not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    its more serious than it sounds ... i don't get out much coz i don't have many female friends ... if i go to a work party .. i'll prob just sit with the other (but knowing they hate me )and have about 20 guys come up to me .. i don't mind talking to the guys but at the same time after a while most of them get a bit "too friendly" i get uncomfortable and then try and talk to the girl gang to get away from the over eager blokes ... but they won't talk to me .. some of these over eager blokes u see are married or whatever and then even becoz i didn't go near just talked to them .. the next week in work rumours start that i'm a slut etc ..
    i've even been sacked b4 from jobs becoz silly girls put in retarded complants about me so much that the boss decided for the sake of peace to let me go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Well in general I have found people won't pick on you just because you're good looking. In my opinion you are obviously giving them some other reason, maybe you are way too flirty?
    Im going to go with my gut here and say, you think you're hot shít and you act like it too.

    Edit: that second reply just screams troll at me but im going to pretend its not one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    minimiss wrote:
    i'm 23 (but look younger) and ALWAYS since i was 16 have other girls bitchin about me.
    I don't have many female friends. I just don't enjoy the company of many women. A lot of it has to do with personality.

    My best friend is very attractive, but she's nice with it. She's not vain, she doesn't use men and she doesn't abuse men.

    I've been friends with other girls who are attractive, but they've been stuck up cows who treat people like crap.

    I don't know if its jealousy with the girls you've experienced, maybe they've gotten vibes from you that you think you're better than them because you feel you're more attractive.

    Maybe you need to talk to them, maybe you need to stop being so hung up on looks and try and focus on being a nicer person.

    If people aren't treating you well because of your looks then they're not worth bothering with.

    You say you're like a "celeb" in your own town, sounds to me like you're from a very small town and maybe you need to get out more.

    Having read your post I'd imagine there is a lot more to your situation and the problems you're experiencing than other girls being jealous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    i do try and talk to them alot .. i certainly don't flirt with some older bloke ..
    i dunno what i'm doing that pisses them off ... i keep other things secret about myself also .. like i have a car .. but never told any1 coz it will get up their noses , and i attend nightschool , didn't tell anyone that either because i know if i did that would be the last nail in the coffin ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Uh huh ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Gileadi


    wouldnt have thought nightschool was something you would need to hide tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Poor, poor you.
    Its so hard to try and keep secrets from people just to be friends isn't it? If you only you could meet some nice people who you could tell everything and they wouldn't go into fits of jealous rages and get you fired....

    Well so much for that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,958 ✭✭✭Chad ghostal


    surely it couldnt be that hard to play down your looks if theyr causing you that much trouble...
    i mean you shouldnt have to dress down or attempt to play down your looks, but in fairness if its causing you that much trouble..
    you have to get on with your life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭PRE_10_DER


    well it's obvious you should just kill youself.. *sigh* life is hard ain't it..

    What exactly is YOUR problem, it seems everyone else has the problem, not you...... unless you're a stuck up bitch..

    and by you last post i don't believe you are 23 tbh..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    minimiss wrote:
    I don't want to sound really vain, but when ever i go out, blokes will always come up to me ... same in work ... anyway the same thing always happens when i start a new job , the blokes will stare at me and this will piss off the other girls and they won't talk to me ...
    i find it hard to be friends with other girls , they'll go out and not invite me or if a fella is chatting me up anywhere , the min my back is turned the other girls will tell the fella that i have something wrong wit me ... sometimes i don't even like walking out by myself becoz in my local area i'm like a celeb .. (i don't know y) and guys will always whistle and all that .. i don't mind that .. but girls will come up and try to fight wit me .. (people i don't even know) in shopping centres niteclubs etc etc ...
    are there any other lasses that experence this ? or have you ever bullied someone over being jealous ? Why ??
    i'm 23 (but look younger) and ALWAYS since i was 16 have other girls bitchin about me.

    I did a case study on depression once and it dealt with asthetic dissociation. Its common enough that people become who society think they should be because of how they look, and, more often than not, this makes them very very unhappy.

    The main thing is, its other peoples problems, not yours and you must never forget that. Sometimes its the best looking people who have the lowest self esteem because people never give them a chance to show who they are and have already made their mind up about them because of how they look. They think that people should be flattered by this, but its just as bad as someone gudging someone because they aren't attractive.

    Unfortunately, its down to you to deal with this because society won't change. Remember thats its important that you never lose sight of who you are because of how people treat you. Don't become their stereotype.

    Pursue your interests, its usualy through common interests and experiences that we make the best friends.

    Above all, don't compromise or lower yourself to accepting friends or boyfriends who don't respect and prioritise your feelings or personality over you looks.

    Its tough having people make there mind up about you because of how you look and you tend to get less sympathy because alot of the biase is based on envy.

    That said, the girls could be more wary of you because they THINK you are vain and attention seeking. Maybe if the girls realised how you felt and if you gave less time to people, especially guys who are hung up on your looks, and not as interested in your personality, they'd have more respect for you and give you a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    PRE_10_DER wrote:
    and by you last post i don't believe you are 23 tbh..
    Blimey, you never cease to amaze PRE_10_DER.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    PRE_10_DER wrote:
    well it's obvious you should just kill youself.. *sigh* life is hard ain't it..
    [\QUOTE]

    No body really cres for your opinion




  • You obviously think you're really hot, so you probably come across as stuck up. I know loads of gorgeous girls who are really nice and nobody hates them or does what you've described.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    PRE_10_DER wrote:

    and by you last post i don't believe you are 23 tbh..

    why???

    i dress the same as every1 esle ... btw .. i don't think i am really great looking .. its other people .. i know its about looks coz i get attention so much from blokes .. and i can tell the way the girls give me dirty looks when the blokes talk to me that their jealous...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭PRE_10_DER


    Boston wrote:
    PRE_10_DER wrote:
    well it's obvious you should just kill youself.. *sigh* life is hard ain't it..
    [\QUOTE]

    No body really cres for your opinion
    do i care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    As syke said, you make the best friends through the sharing of common interestes/experiences.

    Perhaps by not sharing about your car ownership or your night courses etc. you appear aloof or standoffish.

    They may be afraid to approach you if they think you don't want to talk to them as you feel like you're more attractive than them.

    You may be surprised by their reactions if you attempt to engage them in discussion about these things. You're only human, when they realise you do go through a lot of the same things they go through they'll cop on a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭PRE_10_DER


    minimiss wrote:
    why???

    i dress the same as every1 esle ... btw .. i don't think i am really great looking .. its other people .. i know its about looks coz i get attention so much from blokes .. and i can tell the way the girls give me dirty looks when the blokes talk to me that their jealous...
    this is only an opinion... you don't really have a clue why they, allegedly, hate you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Amz wrote:
    You're 23?!!

    This is a joke right?.

    No offence Amz, but this reply from you is somewhat puzzling to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    syke wrote:
    No offence Amz, but this reply from you is somewhat puzzling to me.
    Why would I be offended?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    I'm must agree, it's more likely your attitude than anything else.
    I've noticed girls being ticked off at other girls getting attention from men, but generally it's a very specific situation, and it's only mildly irritated rather than friendship destroying hatred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    what amz said above did sort of work for me in work .. where i work now i told them what happened in the job b4 ... i didn't say i thought it was because i looked great .. i just gave the facts of what happened .. if they had cop on they would have realised it was just a gang of bitches getting together to bitch that went to far ...
    but my friends outside of work can act weird .. like not ever letting me meet their boyfriends ... when i found out some guy who was a friend of my friend liked me and had told her to tell me but she nva did .. i thought it was a bit weird ... theres other little things aswell ..
    these things also happen to my sister who looks a bit like me ... but i was just wondering was there any others out there who got a bad reaction from other girls ..
    it seems like i always have to be xtra nice and nva talk to any men , not to upset them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Miles


    minimiss wrote:
    I don't want to sound really vain, but when ever i go out, blokes will always come up to me ... same in work ... anyway the same thing always happens when i start a new job , the blokes will stare at me and this will piss off the other girls and they won't talk to me ...
    i find it hard to be friends with other girls , they'll go out and not invite me or if a fella is chatting me up anywhere , the min my back is turned the other girls will tell the fella that i have something wrong wit me ... sometimes i don't even like walking out by myself becoz in my local area i'm like a celeb .. (i don't know y) and guys will always whistle and all that .. i don't mind that .. but girls will come up and try to fight wit me .. (people i don't even know) in shopping centres niteclubs etc etc ...
    are there any other lasses that experence this ? or have you ever bullied someone over being jealous ? Why ??
    i'm 23 (but look younger) and ALWAYS since i was 16 have other girls bitchin about me.


    As someone else said forget it you're hot and their not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Amz wrote:
    Why would I be offended?

    Coz I'm suggesting that some of that post contradicts views you have expressed previously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭Lex_Diamonds


    Minimiss,

    I suggest that you go into a career where your looks will get you up the ladder (model, PR, etc). Then you wont have this problem with the uggers getting jealous and fooking things up for you. Dont let them get you down, and dont lose self esteem or whatever over it.

    P.S. Pics plz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    minimiss wrote:
    what amz said above did sort of work for me in work .. where i work now i told them what happened in the job b4 ... i didn't say i thought it was because i looked great .. i just gave the facts of what happened .. if they had cop on they would have realised it was just a gang of bitches getting together to bitch that went to far ...
    but my friends outside of work can act weird .. like not ever letting me meet their boyfriends ... when i found out some guy who was a friend of my friend liked me and had told her to tell me but she nva did .. i thought it was a bit weird ... theres other little things aswell ..
    these things also happen to my sister who looks a bit like me ... but i was just wondering was there any others out there who got a bad reaction from other girls ..
    it seems like i always have to be xtra nice and nva talk to any men , not to upset them...
    They don't seem like very good friends if they're acting like that towards you. They obviously have esteem and trust issues if they're threatened by you that much that they won't introduce you to their boyfriends.

    You'd be better off not worrying about thse people and how they want you to act. If they can't accept you for your personality as well as your appearance they're obviously quite shallow and not worth wasting time fretting about.

    Have you any other interests/hobbies that you could meet people through?

    Do you play a sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭Crucifix


    P.S. Pics plz
    I can't believe it took 26 posts for someone to just say it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    syke wrote:
    Coz I'm suggesting that some of that post contradicts views you have expressed previously
    Upon reading more of the user's posts etc. I may have been hasty in my assumption. I just found it hard to believe that someone of 23 would have these issues.

    I've removed the content in question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Have you ever cheated with one of their boyfriends? Be honest.

    Its not because of your looks, its how you act in front of/with them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    Amz wrote:
    They don't seem like very good friends if they're acting like that towards you. They obviously have esteem and trust issues if they're threatened by you that much that they won't introduce you to their boyfriends.

    You'd be better off not worrying about thse people and how they want you to act. If they can't accept you for your personality as well as your appearance they're obviously quite shallow and not worth wasting time fretting about.

    Have you any other interests/hobbies that you could meet people through?

    Do you play a sport?

    I sometimes think i have no friends because there is only 1 girl i know who doesn't behave that way ...
    I thought what you said also about they have low self esteem, someone even once said to me supposely joking " when we go to this party you have to wear an old black bag and no make up at all becoz i want john to really notice me"

    i have lots of hobbies interests .. but i'm a girly girl so most of its girly sort of stuff ... the same thing happens everywhere nearly with other girls ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    Sangre wrote:
    Have you ever cheated with one of their boyfriends? Be honest.
    NEVER.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    The solution seems obvious to me. Take a look around you when you're in a nightclub. It's not just coincidence that attractive people congregate with other attractive people. You just need to find some other hot women to be friends with. Maybe try a dance or drama group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    haha mini can isee a pic and see whats the story with your looks as for friends keep your 1 best friend, thats all you need.Go and get a boyfriend ie. me and then your set, who gives a **** what the rest of the world thinks!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    i had a job once where there was another girl who got alot of attention from men ... she seemed to get a little sad "buzz" out of the fact the other girls where jealous of her .. i tried to make friends with her .. at first it was ok ... then when i started to get more attention then even she did , she got jealous of the fact that other women where jealous of me ... sad or what ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    That's unfortunete, but I believe you were on the right track. You just gotta avoid the ones that are full of themselves next time.

    On the plus side, you'll never be short of male friends. That, at least, is something.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 minimiss


    um the men want to be more than friends most of the time .. i don't think a girl can have male "friends"
    its also hard to meet men if you don't have many female friends .. work is about it and sometimes in work the same stuff happens as with my friends from outside work...

    i don't really have a probelm to solve i know the only way for me to get other girls to like me is to not really talk about myself and to go overboard trying to talk to them and be nice to them .. they can hardly ignore me when i keep talking to them ...

    I just made this topic because i was wondering why some girls act the way they do, like my so called friend trying to put guys off me, and girls in work trying to get me sacked ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MrPinK


    minimiss wrote:
    um the men want to be more than friends most of the time
    True. Men do generally want to sleep with their female friends, but they also quickly realise (the smart ones anyway) that it's never going to happen and if they like you as a person will happily consign themselves to a platonic relationship.

    And if you can't find any of those, I'm sure there's a really camp, gay guy out there who'd make the perfect girlfriend for you.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    Minimiss,


    P.S. Pics plz

    hahaha I was waiting for that, surprised no one else said it first.
    ya I agree tbh, let us be the judge...post some pics and we will tell you if it is all in your head or if someone just spread a rumor that you are easy ;)

    Tbh, I thought more men were intimidated by extremely hot women and wouldnt tend to flock to them but rather avoid them? Atleast thats what I hear most of the time
    ie...She is so hot but I am afraid to taklk to her, afriad of rejection blah blah

    So perhaps people have the impression you are infact a slut? that is why so many men whislte at you etc...
    think about it, if you have so many females out there telling lies about you then it is totally possoble the word got around town that you sleep around?? makes sense after reading what I have read from you.

    If all else fails, move to another town and start over. People are not going to act that way everywhere, I mean, unless it is just *you* and the way you carry yourself, I think you have a bad apple out there somewhere who may have it in for you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    It's this simple: they are jealous because you
    (a) are hot
    (b) have loads of guy friends
    (c) have men drooling over you at work
    (d) have men drooling over you when you go out
    (e) have men drooling over you in all other possible situations

    So, the solution to your problem is:
    (a) ditch those so-called girl friends of yours because they suck and are draining the life outta you.
    (b) Start hanging with your guy friends.
    (c) If any of these friends makes an advance towards you, just tell him gently that it's not happening.
    (d) Don't believe that crap about "it's easier to find a man when you have women friends", coz it's bull!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    minimiss wrote:
    but my friends outside of work can act weird .. like not ever letting me meet their boyfriends ...


    ok im sorry but there has to be way more to it than them just being jealous of how you look. as somebody else pointed out, chances are the reason they dont want you to meet their boyfriends is down to your behaviour.

    another thing that certainly wont do you any favours in making female friends is this "poor me, its so hard being beautiful" routine that you seem to have going on. classing yourself as a "celebrity" in your area just makes you seem unbelievably conceited.....most girls dont want friends like that. you seem to think you're so hard done by because of the way you look but to be honest i think you need to pull your head out of your árse and grow up a little.

    if it is just a case of jealous girls then ditch them all and move on......however if they are above the age of 16, then chances are theres more to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    It may be easier to be friends with girls who are either a few years younger or older than you - the older ones (in theory) may be more mature/settled and not see you as competition - the younger ones may also not see you as competition. It need not always happen due to looks - inteligence can also get you noticed in this way, and if you have both...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Phil_321


    minimiss wrote:
    sometimes i don't even like walking out by myself becoz in my local area i'm like a celeb

    Damn those paparazzi.... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Its not easy being fabulously good looking *crys into the boutyful bussims of a swedish supermodel*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I don't think it should be a problem. There are some women out there who are obsessed with validating themselves through getting men or who are bitter about being ugly and create a fantasy that all beautiful women are stupid or horrible. Once you avoid this type, you should be okay making friends with other women.

    Also, while it's convenient being beautiful, it's not all there is to life. Develop a good, interesting sense of humour, read books and have good knowlege of different subjects so you can always come up with interesting conversation and so on. That way people will appreciate you for more than your looks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ms Beanbag


    minimiss wrote:
    I don't want to sound really vain, but when ever i go out, blokes will always come up to me ... same in work ... anyway the same thing always happens when i start a new job , the blokes will stare at me and this will piss off the other girls and they won't talk to me ...
    i find it hard to be friends with other girls , they'll go out and not invite me or if a fella is chatting me up anywhere , the min my back is turned the other girls will tell the fella that i have something wrong wit me ... sometimes i don't even like walking out by myself becoz in my local area i'm like a celeb .. (i don't know y) and guys will always whistle and all that .. i don't mind that .. but girls will come up and try to fight wit me .. (people i don't even know) in shopping centres niteclubs etc etc ...
    wel why dont you befriend other attractive or fairly attractive girls in your workplace?? Im sure their not all a bunch of dogs...
    Anyway, what/who exactly do you look like?
    some of those big-breasted plastic blondes would deffo get the wrong sort of attention. Maybe you could change your image abit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭galwaydude


    you said you dont want to sound very vain but most things that you have said in this thread are!!! "im treated like a local celeb" women dont like me cause im a threat to their boyfriends"
    As someone else said cop on a bit, if you really want to make friends, you can but stop all this "im so great lark", ok your prob hot so what!!!, its all about personality in the end.I wish you the best of luck. Your only 23 so you have time to change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    as Billy Connolly once said:

    "beauty is only skin deep.....but ugly goes right to the fúcking bone"

    this girl may be stunning on the outside but she comes across as being as deep as a puddle. as somebody else said, try and develop your personality a bit (you could start with losing the "text" typing) and other girls will be more receptive to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    boy there are a lot of jealous people even in this thread.

    original poster, just ignore those who put you down, you don't need them, be friends with people who are nice to you, ignore the rest, just try to live your life your way and be happy how you want to be.

    Life's to short to try and accomodate everyone's suggestions about riding a donkey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭elivsvonchiaing


    Think you need to do a character-building exercise: Suggestion: move somewhere where you don't know a soul - and have to make friends from scratch - (Local celebrity - your family is either rich in a small town - or you are the hotest in the town - neither is healthy imho! Move abroad and carve your own niche in life - also impression you're daddy's 'lil angel and he would murder any young fella who he didn't approve of! Think you need to assert yourself and get outta there... and re-invent yourself!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    as Billy Connolly once said:

    "beauty is only skin deep.....but ugly goes right to the fúcking bone"

    this girl may be stunning on the outside but she comes across as being as deep as a puddle. as somebody else said, try and develop your personality a bit (you could start with losing the "text" typing) and other girls will be more receptive to you.

    ROFL You sound so jealous and seem to have an uber attitude problem. You are being pretty harsh in all fairness.


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