Velvet Revolver: RnFnR

humanji

Any one else at the gig last night? It was awesome! It's great to finally hear an actual rock band for a change!

And can anyone tell me what cover they did? I remember they played Mr. Brownstone, I Used to Love Her and Crackerman, but can't for the life of me remember what else!

elvis2002

did they play Its So Easy?

My name is Mud

Sex Type Thing was the other cover version

I thought that the sound was rubbish. The Datsuns had a better mix. Its the classic problem with combination of the Point Depot and MCD... crappy sound...all you hear is extreme top end. saying that, the sound did get better throughout the night

Velvet Vocals

I was there... what an excellent gig!! They rocked!!!!

Can anyone remember if Guns n'Roses played the RDS in the late eighties or early nineties??

My name is Mud

they played Slane in 92

Saint Something

Saint Something wrote:

I was there... what an excellent gig!! They rocked!!!!

Were we at the same gig? The sound was Cack. The singer was a public health hazard. But Slash was great. Until he opened his gob through sex-type-thing. I've NEVER been so disappointed by a gig.

AND PLEASE!!! Scott Weiland, NEVER take your clothes off in public again. (Oh, and stop the skag, cos its wreckin your voice.)

And everybody please, look up the thesaurus for another word for ROCK!!!


* I had to drown my sorrows, so miserable and hungover

Velvet Vocals

I know what you mean about Scott Weiland. Put your top back on luv, your two skinny and skaged up!!!
But, I thought the rest of it was great!
Look at it from the point of view of them just doing for them selves, they are totally self-indulgent, they are just very rich guys who love doin what they do and are just doing it for the sake of it.

Dermo

I thought the gig kicked ass

the sound was a LOT better than I've heard in the point in a LONG time

Eldarin

I left my house for that gig for one reason and one reason only, To See Slash!!!!!. By god I wasn't disappointed. Everything else about the night was muck. Although it did feel nice to be listening to Mr Brownstone being played live by virtually all of guns and roses.

That was brilliant.

Other than that it was a crap gig.

therecklessone

Papa Smut wrote:

Were we at the same gig? The sound was Cack. The singer was a public health hazard. But Slash was great. Until he opened his gob through sex-type-thing. I've NEVER been so disappointed by a gig.

Eldarin wrote:

I left my house for that gig for one reason and one reason only, To See Slash!!!!!. By god I wasn't disappointed. Everything else about the night was muck. Although it did feel nice to be listening to Mr Brownstone being played live by virtually all of guns and roses.

That was brilliant.

Other than that it was a crap gig.

Thank Christ, I thought I was on my own there.

The Appetite... stuff sounded excellent, but the VR material lacks balls. So-called supergroups are not the way forward...

karlh

Slash was fun, besides that they were awful and the gig was sh1t.

Scott Weiland has the charisma of a dishcloth and a voice to match. I cringed through a couple of songs when he couldn't hit a note to save his life. Sound was awful but I'd put that down to the venue.....drums were very quiet!?

Liked 'Fall to Pieces' since he managed to hold it together long enough and Slash's guitar solos were majestic.

They all seemed very bored though!?

Still had fun but i saw the word 'pantomime' used to describe them in a live review....kinda sums it up.

'Where's your career!? IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!'

sorry couldn't resist

therecklessone

karlh wrote:

'Where's your career!? IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!'

sorry couldn't resist

Cruel man, cruel. Still, I doubt Slash and company will lose too much sleep over it, a world tour is just what the doctor ordered for the pension plan methinks.

Though the fines for the smoking on stage might make a dent in their take for the night...

humanji

I can't believe so many people thought it was crap. It was a great atmosphere, and they played brilliantly. Granted, Scott Weiland topless is a sin against nature, butI can let that go. I was a little dissappointed they didn't play Plush (I'm a bigger STP fan than GnR), but I'll forgive them in time.

Wow, I was in the pit and it was rubbish atmosphere there. And what was the story with the pit? It took up a third of the auditorium ffs!!

Giblet

Yeah the pit was too packed, was right against the barrier. The sound was **** in the pit because you get too much bass drum and bass guitar plodding in your ears.
I thought it was deadly though.

karlh

did nobody else notice the sustained silences from the crowd? i actually felt slightly embarrassed for them at one stage when they were trying to get people going.

i was also in the pit and the was no atmosphere for the vast majority of it. if they played the whole gig like they did the last song and the crowd were as into it, it would have properly rocked.

Slash vocoder solo and bluegrass interlude....hmmmm

paulmartin

Some people are being too harsh. I thought it might be crap for me because I had a seating ticket, way at the back, but it was still brilliant, even if the sound wasn't great. The old g n' r songs were great, especially It's So Easy. The Velvet Revolver songs were brilliant too, especially You Got No Right.

The problem is a lot of people who went were G n' R fans who don't really like Velvet Revolver, which could account for the lack of atmosphere in the Pit some of you were talking about (I don't know coz i wasn't anyway near there). Personally, i think the album is really underrated and got a bit of unfair criticism from people who were expecting it to be as good as Appetite. The fact is, without Axl and Izzy, they were never going to be as good, but it was still the best album of 2004, and a lot more than I'm used to expecting from supergroups. The Datsuns were great as well. Didn't know much about them beforehand. Mother****er from Hell was possibly the best song of the night by either band.

God NO! I really like the album and was in awe when I first heard it. It's what I thought r'n'r needed. So I was expecting something more from professionals that have been around for a while. The soundman should be sacked though. And before people go on about the point being a terrible venue, at the Radiohead, Fleetwood Mac, and Bowie gigs, there were speakers behind the crowd, so the volume could be dropped and they were all amazing.

karlh

paulmartin wrote:

The problem is a lot of people who went were G n' R fans who don't really like Velvet Revolver

I love(d) VR and the album is fantastic, not best of the year by any stretch but it is great.

I just don't think they gave a toss and it showed.

Neil3030

If I were a Guns and Roses fan I'd feel well ripped off at the fact that they 1. defied their statement of "moving forward" by playing covers and 2. played fairly average GnR tracks that could be best described as album fillers. I can't see why a band would do that. Perhaps there are legal issues I don't know for sure, but either play your new VR stuff (because at the end of the day, that's who people bought a ticket for) or play a few tracks that will really please the fans there that might enjoy reliving the glory days of GnR. They sold out by playing covers, they may as well have played some of the big hits.

Also, I would like to stand up for Scott. He is an amazing front man and vocalist and listening to his range and versatility on the "Purple" album from STP will have anyone in agreement. He's free to take his shirt off if he pleases and I am also delighted (as a STP fan) to hear "Sex Type Thing" sung live, one of their biggest tracks.

And the sound in the Point always sucks!! I am yet to go to a gig there where everything could be heard clearly.

It just seems to me you are looking for any targets to vent your anger on at the fact that you were clearly ripped off by your heros and haven't got the balls to admit it.

rasher_b2

Neil3030 wrote:

because at the end of the day, that's who people bought a ticket for

That's true but most people were guns n roses fans and loved the covers. i know i did.

goin'_to_the_PS

why wasn't i there i kept saying to myself i'll buy a ticket today,i'll buy a ticket today,i'll buy a ticket today,i'll buy a ticket today, and never did

Neil3030

rasher_b2 wrote:

That's true but most people were guns n roses fans and loved the covers. i know i did.

In that case I'm glad for you, and for anyone else for that matter. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be best pleased and to leave poor Scott alone!!

cena

last night was my first time too a concert. i thought it so rocked. they sound way better live than on the cd.

Oeneus

I see what you mean by the atmosphere in the moshpit being ****! I was trying so hard to have a ball of a time, crowdsurfing my ass off etc. But people were just getting pissed off with me.
Some guy actually just pulled me down to the floor and said "If you do that that again I'll f*ckin' bate yah!"

****ing lighten up people and enjoy yourselves! If you wanted to 100%absorb the music then you should have got a seat!

confetti

Neil3030 wrote:

If I were a Guns and Roses fan I'd feel well ripped off at the fact that they 1. defied their statement of "moving forward" by playing covers and 2. played fairly average GnR tracks that could be best described as album fillers. I can't see why a band would do that.


WHAT THE ****???

Mr. Brownstone and Its so easy...album fillers?????? -
you must be joking!!!! theyre classics and its so easy was amazing in the point, did you want them to play sweet child o mine or something????? they played the ones they enjoyed playing, not to please the mass majority of people who want the radio friendly hits, and the live version of used to love her is brilliant, slash is deadly on it,

and as for scott taking his clothes off, he can do what he wants, i personaly didnt go to the gig to see a fashion show,

anyways the gig was brilliant i think although i dont think VR are a patch on guns but i got to see slash and duff so i dont care

Neil3030

confetti wrote:

Neil3030 wrote:

If I were a Guns and Roses fan I'd feel well ripped off at the fact that they 1. defied their statement of "moving forward" by playing covers and 2. played fairly average GnR tracks that could be best described as album fillers. I can't see why a band would do that.


WHAT THE ****???

Mr. Brownstone and Its so easy...album fillers?????? -
you must be joking!!!! theyre classics and its so easy was amazing in the point, did you want them to play sweet child o mine or something?????

In a word: yes! I suppose the crux of my dismay was with them playing covers in the first place what with their statements of moving forward etc etc so going down that road and playing what they played was unfair. I mean, don't tell me you wouldn't have killed to see Paradise City, Welcome to the Jungle, Nightrain, Sweet Child o' Mine or Civil War played. Maybe Scott can't sing as high as Axl, but they could easily have changed the keys.

they played the ones they enjoyed playing, not to please the mass majority of people who want the radio friendly hits,

But by saying that you are pretty much admitting that they were only up there for themselves. The big hits is what got them to where they are, it's what filled the point and as I've said before: either play all new stuff and actually try and move on from that, or else acknowledge those in attendance by playing something they will really enjoy.

Don't get me wrong, I am delighted that so many people seemed to have had a great time and enjoyed themselves. That being said, there was a bit of piss ripping carried out on the part of Velvet Revolver and I for one would not go see them again.

Oeneus

You're forgetting something. Mr. Brownstone, It's So Easy, and Used to Love Her were songs which were intirely written by Slash.

This probably had a lot to do with the choice of covers.

For example. Sweet Child O' Mine. Why the hell would Slash want to cover a song that Axl wrote about his Ex. girlfriend?

Slash wrote those songs so has every write to play them with VR.

Plus, I bet a million quid that if they didn't play any Gn' R songs you'd be complaining about that instead!

Stop bitching!... Pussies.

Neil3030

I suppose the crux of my dismay was with them playing covers in the first place

I wish people would read more...:rolleyes:

JC 2K3

Well I had a great time, even if the sound wasn't perfect, I mean it was worth the money just to see Slash.

I suppose the crux of my dismay was with them playing covers in the first place

They played pretty much all of Contraband, which is almost every VR song, what else did you expect them to play? Mr. Brownstone was brilliant, the sound for it was pretty good as well.

cregser

Didn't go. Wish I did. Heard it was great. But every gig I've gone to I've never agreed with everyone on the quality of the sound. It's usually the old fogeys that give out about the sound though

paulmartin

Oeneus wrote:

You're forgetting something. Mr. Brownstone, It's So Easy, and Used to Love Her were songs which were intirely written by Slash.
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This is the point i was about to make except It's So Easy was actually written entirely by Duff (not Slash) with an old friend of Guns n roses Wes Arkeen. It's also Weiland's favourite G n' R song, I believe. Also I think Izzy wrote the lyrics to Mr. Brownstone. Still, the point that they didn't want to do anything by Axl is valid, although I'm not sure about Used To Love Her lyrics. I think Duff also wrote most of Paradise City including lyrics so that would have been a classic song to play. I think another point is just that they didn't want to overshadow the VR songs, instead they wanted to play songs that would fit in with the rest of the gig.

paulmartin

"I left my house for that gig for one reason and one reason only, To See Slash!!!!!."
"the VR material lacks balls"
'Where's your career!? IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!'

These are some of the quotes that made me make the point that many of the people there were not velvet revolver fans.

karlh

i was just making a light-hearted panto-realted jibe!

i love VR! just that by any measure the gig in the point was a sh1t gig.

cool to see slash but as a band, playing a set, in a venue, with a crowd, it was sh1t. i love their music and expected a decent performance....which it wasn't.

the sound in the point is ridiculous. been to lots of shows there and only once did the sound not mess up the gig. for those who thought it was good, try going to a real venue and hear the difference. vicar street and the village both have great systems and it's not just because of the size! bet you even Neil Diamond in Landsdowne will sound better! (i'm not going btw, any volunteers?)

Civilian_Target

I thought they did a pretty good job of the sound at the point at Iron Maiden, not so hot at the audioslave gig. Not sure whether I regret missing that gig though