May Day protests

DadaKopf

The spectre of Bakunin may be descending on May day.

Shame really.

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Magwitch

The spectre of Buchanan has nothing to do with these 'raggle taggle' anarchists, i'm sure he would be turning in his grave at this colour by numbers anarchy. The best way to protest is to infuse the system from the inside not smash a few Mcdonalds windows-big deal!!! - This is actually a friend of Magwitch...soon to be a board member.

DadaKopf

what i kind of meant was his saying (and i paraphrase): destruction is also a creative force.

The guardian ran a 2 page focus on an internal feud which happening within certain strands of anti-globalisation people, reclaim the streets and anti-capitalists - a feud between the fluffies and the spikies. the non-violent protesters and those hell bent on violence and the thrashing of 'bastions of capitalism'. It's a shame because the article showed how the fluffies have been actively progrommed by the spikies and run outta town. none, however have dobbed on their spikey colleagues.

i'm just not sure how much the anarchist and other sympathetic protesters would be viewed by Bakunin - violence when absolutely necessary or inevitable but instead, it's being used as a publicity tool instead of a justified move to the creation of a better system/structure. people with just cause to oppose globalisation (which is probably said and done - check out Jean Baudrillard), are probably going to estrange everyone through unpalatable, senseless acts of violence when they COULD be making their point in an acceptable but nevertheless irritating way - by numbers and particular actions.

YA BASTA! have it right (like the Wombles in Britain); they are extremely organisad and disciplined but carry water pistols and sticks covered in inches of foam rubber to prevent injury to others.

i'm afraid this problematic striation in the movement will 1) occur in unjustified violence in britain again and 2) might spread to here.

but at least people still are allowed to protest

Digital Tilmitt

Why doen't someone burn down the world trade centre, its about time.

GreenHell

Why wots wrong with free trade.

Excelsior

That Guardian report was ridiculous. The Guardian and the Observer reported last week that the army were sending in marksmen to take out anarchists that were alledgedly highly organised and going to run riot with machetes and samurai swords.

Come on, does anyone else smell a touch of Sky News-esque, dont turn up or you'll be a sociailist reporting going on.

As much as I hate the term, neo-liberal economics will quite frankly pull our democracies from under us if we don't do something about it. I am a capitalist, but we are losing the run of things when a french company, (was it Beltec?) attempted to privatise Bolivian water at a rate of $80 a month. That is free trade gone mental. How can a farmer in Bolivia afford $960 a year for running water?!? And this would be the state wide water industry privatised and placed in the hands of a company in Paris.

I certainly see where the socialists and anarchists are coming from and I don't imagine it will remain a niche issue for long.

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Yossarian

And in the US we see corporations surpessing academic research with the RIAA threatening Academics over research carried out into the SDMI watermark.
http://cryptome.org/sdmi-attack.htm

There has been a growing trend to supress reverse engineering, fairuse and research by corporations of late.
The most blatant example of this occured in South Africa where leading drug companies took the SA government to court to prevent it from allowing the importation and sale of cheaper anti-AIDS drugs. The bottom line being profit comes before human lives.

regi

http://www.evilgerald.com/Issues/Issue8/8worldbank.htm

Excelsior

Yeah, but the drug companies backed down in South Africa under pressure. This shows that it perhaps can be stopped if people stand up to it.
And the Princeton Professor who cracked the SMDI watermarks has tactically played a superb game. From now on, in court people can argue that the RIAA prevented Prof Felton from conducting academic research and that will prove the Millenium Copyright law unconsitutional.

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Evil Phil

I don't think there's anything wrong with free trade, but I do think the corporations are becoming a bit too powerful. George Bush turned around on his environmental promises after he was elected. Now there's nothing new in a politician lying to get elected, but it does seem that he did so to keep his financial backers happy. That's way too much power of an entity that exists solely for commercial profit.

[edited cos I can't spell]

[This message has been edited by Evil Phil (edited 27-04-2001).]

adnans

what i said in topic http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum15/HTML/000366.html

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Anyway, activist always target people who have the power... so if the power moves from government to industry to transnational corporations, so the swivel will move onto these people.</font>

... and corporations are getting to powerful and with the aid of free trade they will grow even more... powerfully (is that the word im lookin for?)

adnans

amp

I'm not an anarchist (or a dentist) but I quite enjoyed the footage of MacDonalds getting trashed.

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DadaKopf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Excelsior:
That Guardian report was ridiculous. The Guardian and the Observer reported last week that the army were sending in marksmen to take out anarchists that were alledgedly highly organised and going to run riot with machetes and samurai swords.
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yeah, check out Urban75, they're pretty ****ed off at sensationalist media reports too.

Ah god love them, journalists have to make suff up on occasion because most of them haven't REAL jobe

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