The great ITV debate (3 euro increase in RTE licence)

gally74

Has anyone heard anything more on the itv fta?
Apperantly E4 is close to going FTA.
Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage.

DMC

We'll know more nearer the 20th January (when the 2 months are up)

Mossy Monk

gally74 wrote:

Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage.

another few years left on the contract with Sky
FTA RTÉ on satellite wouldnt be worth watching as it would be loads of imports not broadcast

Ulsterman 1690

Its going to get really silly if ITV goes FTA and TV3 doesnt

duridian

gally74 wrote:

Has anyone heard anything more on the itv fta?
Apperantly E4 is close to going FTA.
Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage.

What i heard on the E4 going FTA situation was that it could be next autumn. E4 is related to Channel4 not ITV I believe so the thing about the ITV contract expiring in January wouldn't affect E4.

BrianD

Thread title:

The great ITV debate (3 euro increase in RTE licence)

What's the connection?????

Thread body:

Has anyone heard anything more on the itv fta?
Apperantly E4 is close to going FTA.
Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage

It would be kinda handy if the thread title and the posting are some how related and coherrant!!! Maybe there's some kinda lateral thinking vibe going on.

Danno

QUOTE: "Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage"

Why? Isn't 28.50 great value to view RTE along with 100s of other TV stations with guaranteed crystal clear reception! Less than €1 per day - shut up you fool!

There is always a bit of co-ax cable and a clothes hanger for you guys whinging about the price. IMO €30 should be the monthly price of this great service.

Round Cable

Danno wrote:

Why? Isn't 28.50 great value to view RTE along with 100s of other TV stations with guaranteed crystal clear reception! Less than €1 per day - shut up you fool!

There is always a bit of co-ax cable and a clothes hanger for you guys whinging about the price. IMO €30 should be the monthly price of this great service.

However the Brittish pay a TV licence and get their terrestrial channels for free, or a FTV card for a Sky box, and yet we are expected to pay E30 a month just to view our own channels, no E30 is not a bargain.

Tony

Danno wrote:

Why? Isn't 28.50 great value to view RTE along with 100s of other TV stations with guaranteed crystal clear reception! Less than €1 per day - shut up you fool!

you forget that we already pay for RTE via the licience fee. The abusive tone of your post does not exactly further your view

Nybras

I’m going to sky as soon as possible, though it’s money in Rupert Murdock’s wallet.
RTE just isn’t worth the watch, well maybe Blizzard Of Odd, but that’s it. TV licence increase where is that going? :mad: :mad:



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Colm80

Danno wrote:

QUOTE: "Is there any way to lobby RTE on its subscribtion to Sky? its a joke at this stage"

Why? Isn't 28.50 great value to view RTE along with 100s of other TV stations with guaranteed crystal clear reception! Less than €1 per day - shut up you fool!

There is always a bit of co-ax cable and a clothes hanger for you guys whinging about the price. IMO €30 should be the monthly price of this great service.

Uk viewers dont have to pay sky for the BBC channels why should we pay sky for RTE A double charge. If i decided to to drop sky i should be able to view RTE via my digi box.
Dano you should direct that coment fool at your self.

I Think Danno probably has some of his tongue in his cheek,at least I hope so.

So how much of the licence fee should be paid to Sky for the free use of their platform and at what cost?

Lets face it,when their subscriber base is still growing, or at least not falling then the market is bearing the price.
In other words people are prepared to pay for the product.
The main issue here is the lack of competition.
In Dublin(and to an extent Waterford and Galway) you have a reasonable cable service and digital but the latter is offering only a fraction of what Sky is offering.

Go to other parts of the country and you are relying on chorus,the most dreadfull service I have ever had the misfortune of experiencing...

So no complaints really, if you want a quality service apparently, you have to pay for it!

BrianD

However the British pay a TV licence and get their terrestrial channels for free,

As do ALL television households in the RoI. Of course, like the UK there will be some households that can not receive terrestrial TV at all.

The issue is being confused. If you are a Sky Digital subscriber you are not paying twice for RTE no more than any NTL or Chorus subscriber is doing so. Like cable or MMDS, Digital Satellite is your chosen method of delivery for television content. You are paying Sky Digital for the delivery of your TV signal. It is not a double charge whatsoever.

However, RTE did do a bum deal with Sky Digital and Murdoch and co must have been laughing all the way to the bank. Instead of Sky paying RTE it ended up the other way around giving Sky Digital a valuable selling proposition not just for nothing but they were getting money for it! Do you think Sky would have got many subs if they were selling the packages minus RTE and TV3? "Now you press this button for the Sky Digital channels and then make sure you have your rabbits ears plugged in so you can get RTE". I don't think so.

snaps

Round Cable wrote:

However the Brittish pay a TV licence and get their terrestrial channels for free, or a FTV card for a Sky box, and yet we are expected to pay E30 a month just to view our own channels, no E30 is not a bargain.

The British public pay a TV licence only for BBC. This is because it has no adverts and is financed by the licence only. They get no money from adverts. Some of the money also goes towards the BBC Radio stations to finance them. ITV, CH4, CH5 and Sky get no money from the licence fee as far as I know.

It has been argued that the Irish licence fee is another illegal tax (Like the VRT) as all of irelands channels are commercial!

Another example of Ireland is European when it wants to be an Irish when it suits them.

No other European country have a TV licence fee (For commercial stations) or Import duty on cars brought inside the E.U and then brought into their country.

Round Cable

True, however I thought that some of the licence fee went to offset costs of digital dtt and FTV cards, I could be wrong about that though.

Yes it must be or if it isn't illegal it should be to have a commercial broadcastor getting a licence fee, I suppose the 3 euro increase goes into some crap presentor's back pocket. One thing that makes me cringe "More movie premiers than any other channel in Ireland' No **** no other channel gets a licence fee and ads!

snaps

Very rarely watch RTE to be honest. When I watch a film I like to watch the whole thing instead of stopping and starting with adverts. But I would rather have adverts than €160 licence fee. BUT WE GET BOTH!

Alun

snaps wrote:

No other European country have a TV licence fee (For commercial stations)

Errm, the Netherlands does

snaps

Thats proved me wrong then! I thought only UK and IRL had TV Licence?

joolsveer

If we don't pay our licence fee how will Pat Kenny and Twink survive?

DMC

This old chestnut once more... and you make me look for the figures....

Why does the BBC have no ads and 100% Licence Fee and RTÉ gets ads and licence fee (no longer guaranteed 100%)

BBC:
Population: 60 million
TV Licence price: €171.38
No advertising.
Income (2003): £3.75bn stg

RTÉ:
Population: 3,917,000
TV Licence price: €152 (€155 from April)
Advertising makes up ~60% of revenue.
Income (2003): circa €179m

The only comparision you can make.

Round Cable

joolsveer wrote:

If we don't pay our licence fee how will Pat Kenny and Twink survive?

They might have to go out and ACTUALLY WORK.

Round Cable

DMC wrote:

This old chestnut once more... and you make me look for the figures....

Why does the BBC have no ads and 100% Licence Fee and RTÉ gets ads and licence fee (no longer guaranteed 100%)

BBC:
Population: 60 million
TV Licence price: €171.38
No advertising.
Income (2002): £3.75bn stg

RTÉ:
Population: 3,917,000
TV Licence price: €152 (€155 from April)
Advertising makes up ~60% of revenue.
Income (2003): circa €179m

The only comparision you can make.

And that programmes are only a fraction of the cost compared to Britain.

DMC

Income per head of population (or household) is the biggest assessment you can make.

RTÉ and the BBC, (or any other broadcaster) when they buy imported programming, they pay what ever the rate is per size of market (population).

snaps

snaps wrote:

Thats proved me wrong then! I thought only UK and IRL had TV Licence?

IIRC in France, you cannot officially buy a TV unless you produce your TV licence.

Round Cable

Earthman wrote:

IIRC in France, you cannot officially buy a TV unless you produce your TV licence.

Well that should be a big incentive for RTE to push for DTT, no licence, no box.

byte

Not a bad idea. Heck I'd be happy if they tried ANYTHING to get DTT off the ground! I'll not even start about DAB!

duridian

joolsveer wrote:

If we don't pay our licence fee how will Pat Kenny and Twink survive?

There might be a bit of money from the public in it for them if they got together to assassinate Ryan Tubridy

Icehouse

Actually here in France, when you buy a tv you have to show valid ID (passport, state ID card or drivers licence) and a week or 2 after you receive a letter demanding whether the tv you have replaced was sold (in which case you're supposed to provide buyer's name and address) or binned. They also enclose a form that you have to return with a cheque for a tv licence, or you have to sign the form and put your existing licence number. The french love paperwork.

AFAIK all of the channels here get a share of the licence fee - the 3 public channels plus the commercials. All of them equally have too many ad's, just like RTE. They are equally free on satellite, as RTE should be.

Macy

gally74 wrote:

Apperantly E4 is close to going FTA.

just to point out that I think E4 is going FTA on DTT, rather than Dsat (well for the time being anyway). E4 currently a top up Top Up...