9/11 Cover up

FX Meister

Could be crap or could be true. Quite well put together though.
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main

daveirl

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ShiverinEskimo

It was well put together. Very believable too.

steveland?

It's very believable yeh... jaysis

joejoem

hmmmm I know alot of it is probably bull poop but its still riles you up. Those Damn FBI guys.

sprinkles

I know it a conspiracy theory and all but in fairness how does a plane that size, carrying all that fuel disappear in the rubble of a building? I saw a couple of programmes on it before and they all made the same point. The hole is too small. The wings would have made a dent in the building beside the hole and then broke off, thus leaving a visible scar along the building and two big wings on the lawn. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see any.

To punch a small hole in the wall (like the one all the way inside the inner ring) you need something small travelling fast as opposed to a large plane travvelling relatively slow (by the time it reached the inner ring). Just a thought

I def beilive something else hit the building.

BolBill

As I've said before " Who had the most to gain by 9/11?", Answer : George W.Bush.

steveland?

That's dangerous talk BolBil! You're probably on the FBI's watch list now...

dahamsta

The FBI are a bunch of fairies. If BolBill was a real man he'd wants to get into the NSA's Echelon.

http://www.google.ie/search?q=nsa+echelon

adam

BolBill

SteveD wrote:

That's dangerous talk BolBil! You're probably on the FBI's watch list now...

Yeah
Like I'm worried

It's true though, Bush needed an excuse to finish off Daddys job with Saddam and Osama gave him the perfect excuse. Bushs presidency was really going nowhere, he was immensely unpopular after stealing the election, he needed something, a war always helps, and hey presto, 9/11 happens. They let it happen.

First question Bush asked after 9/11 "Can we connect these attacks to Iraq?". Even today Osama is free as a bird, Bush even said that hes not interested in Bin Laden anymore, not interested the man that attacked innocent US civilans!!??? What a great guy to have in charge, and then the Yanks vote him in again, :rolleyes:

As for the "heroes" of Flight 93, don't get me started. They were taken out, simple as that.

daveirl

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Andrew Duffy

Nice music, but it's just the same old stuff. Snopes has a nice rebuttal:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Hugh Hefner

OMFG, that's my friend's (the original post's link)!

A little story behind it. It was originally on some other site (I forget which though. A good one). It was taken off because the Pentagon contacted the site and "asked" for it to be taken off. They sent him a letter saying that he should not make such treasonous things which are distasteful towards the families and that they would like him to send them personal details (address, real name, etc.). He brought it into school one day so I'm not just telling you something he made up. And yes it was official. It had all the official markings and the like. He said it took him a few months (the flashfile). I can't tell you his name obvioulsy but I'll try and get a message to him to get on boards.ie and onto this thread (he's not a close friend but another friend has his e-mail so I'll get him to contact him).

Simi

9/11 was staged for one reason. To inspire fear in the american people. What got George W. Bush re-elected? The average middle americans fear of terroism. After he rigged the 2000 election there was no hope of him being re-elected or getting support from any Americans to attack Iraq.

joseph brand

Check these out!!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs%5Fen.htm

911 in plane sight

JackKelly

im no military expert, i couldn't imagine a single missle doing that damage.

David19

BolBill wrote:

First question Bush asked after 9/11 "Can we connect these attacks to Iraq?". Even today Osama is free as a bird, Bush even said that hes not interested in Bin Laden anymore, not interested the man that attacked innocent US civilans!!??? What a great guy to have in charge, and then the Yanks vote him in again, :rolleyes:

Could you show me where bush said he wasn't interested in bin laden?

David19

TimAy wrote:

im no military expert, i couldn't imagine a single missle doing that damage.

An ICBM with a nuclear bomb in it would do a lot more damage, thats a missile. It just depends on the size of the missile and whats in it. You could do a lot more damage.

Hobbes

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Another rumour floating around (refers to the last plane to go down). The plane crashed after the authorisation to shoot down commercial airliners was given. Also it broke up in mid-air before crashing (wreakage was strewn across a wide area) which would suggest a missile or explosives on board.

I am MAN

it's a good watch but do we really need another one of these.

Sposs

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/

BolBill

David19 wrote:

Could you show me where bush said he wasn't interested in bin laden?

No I can't show you where, do you think I record the news? He said it before the first Presidencial debate, I saw it with my own eyes.

Actually heres a quote
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I don't really care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George Bush. March 13, 2002

Case rested.

David19

BolBill wrote:

No I can't show you where, do you think I record the news? He said it before the first Presidencial debate, I saw it with my own eyes.

Actually heres a quote
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I don't really care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George Bush. March 13, 2002

Case rested.

I've read that before. The quote was taken out of context. He was making the point that the war on terror is a lot bigger than one man, which is true. Still, he could have said it a bit better than that.

dahamsta

David19 wrote:

Still, he could have said it a bit better than that.

Difficult when you're a moron.

joseph brand

If anyone else interested in reading what the Yanks themselves have to say for 'The Leader', 'O Gracious One' who we follow 'til the end.

http://www.mong.tv/

Go to forums and politics, you will not believe how much they hate us Europeans, wherever Europe is, DUHHH!!

As an American there is no need to know of a world outside theirs.

Third_Echelon

TimAy wrote:

im no military expert, i couldn't imagine a single missle doing that damage.

a tomahawk or something of that power could account for that damage, but not alone... i firmly believe that explosives etc were rigged to the pentagon to create a 'bigger' explosion to mimic the effect that an aeroplane would have on hitting the pentagon....

If anyone actually believes that 9/11 was solely carried out by bin laden and his cronies, you seriously have to take a second look at the evidence. In my mind, I have no doubt that this was an inside job from start to finish, that was badly covered up. They used the grief of the american people as a base to feed them with lies and deceit... There was truly a greater power than osama bin laden at work on that day... CIA and other agencies that we probably know dont exist definitely were involved.

I was in NYC on sept 11th and i saw it all with my own eyes. Watching the news that day, the events that happened in the city immediately after and in the following weeks just didn't seem right to me... The footage and eye-witness accounts has all the evidence there...

Perhaps bush was behind it??? I dont really think so, but somebody from the american camp was... imagine doing this to your own people??? the mind boggles

BolBill

Third_Echelon wrote:

a tomahawk or something of that power could account for that damage, but not alone... i firmly believe that explosives etc were rigged to the pentagon to create a 'bigger' explosion to mimic the effect that an aeroplane would have on hitting the pentagon....

If anyone actually believes that 9/11 was solely carried out by bin laden and his cronies, you seriously have to take a second look at the evidence. In my mind, I have no doubt that this was an inside job from start to finish, that was badly covered up. They used the grief of the american people as a base to feed them with lies and deceit... There was truly a greater power than osama bin laden at work on that day... CIA and other agencies that we probably know dont exist definitely were involved.

I was in NYC on sept 11th and i saw it all with my own eyes. Watching the news that day, the events that happened in the city immediately after and in the following weeks just didn't seem right to me... The footage and eye-witness accounts has all the evidence there...

Perhaps bush was behind it??? I dont really think so, but somebody from the american camp was... imagine doing this to your own people??? the mind boggles

The mind never boggles when it comes to the Yanks, they are capable of anything. Example : Clinton bombs the sh*t out of Kozovo to take his name off the front headlines at the time he is questioned over Monica Lewinsky.

David19

BolBill wrote:

The mind never boggles when it comes to the Yanks, they are capable of anything. Example : Clinton bombs the sh*t out of Kozovo to take his name off the front headlines at the time he is questioned over Monica Lewinsky.

Yeah thats the reason he went in. Never mind the terrible things going on in kosovo e.g "forced expulsions, looting, burning, detentions, use of human shields, summary executions, exhumation of mass graves, systematic and organized rape, violations of medical neutrality, and a new type of ethnic cleansing, identity cleansing". It was NATO that went into kosovo, not the US.

Hobbes

David19 wrote:

I've read that before. The quote was taken out of context. He was making the point that the war on terror is a lot bigger than one man, which is true. Still, he could have said it a bit better than that.

Actually I saw the report in question. You give him too much credit, it is not what he was implying at all. Compare that to his earlier "Dead or Alive" speech to all the victims of 9/11.

What amazed me was how Clinton could get so much flak for Monica and Bush get away with 1000 times more worse.

BolBill

David19 wrote:

Yeah thats the reason he went in. Never mind the terrible things going on in kosovo e.g "forced expulsions, looting, burning, detentions, use of human shields, summary executions, exhumation of mass graves, systematic and organized rape, violations of medical neutrality, and a new type of ethnic cleansing, identity cleansing". It was NATO that went into kosovo, not the US.

And the timing????? Get the pro American goggles off. They see themselves as the world leaders, they can and do what they want EXAMPLE : NO WMD in Iraq, still they go in, with no UN backing and the Brits, a few Spanish and other countries afraid to say no.

9/11 was allowed to happen to help a "leader" that wasn't even voted in. Now that fear is rife the trailer trash hicks vote him back in. :rolleyes:

daveirl

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daveirl

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BolBill

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The day he was impeached, he dropped a sh*tload on Kosovo, and yes it was to take himself off the top headline, it f**kin worked too.
Blair is merely an American puppet as is Bertie to an extent. Have we EVER had a US President visit this country that WASNT ALLOWED visit Dublin before???? NO. I for one would have been throwing everything at his car as would everyone else. WHY? because hes a f**kin joke, hes a dangerous lying b*stard

FatherTed

You know I don't even think anything ever happened to the Pentagon. I was in Virginia a few months ago and passed by the Pentagon and sure enough, it looks like nothing ever happened.

Then again I was in downtown Manhatten in the Summer and the WTC isnt there. Maybe it was knocked down to build a park.

David19

BolBill wrote:

And the timing????? Get the pro American goggles off

Daveirl is right. AFAIK the kosovo war happened after the impeachment. The war in kosovo was in 1999 whereas the monica lewinsky scandal was in 98'. Some people accused clinton of going into Iraq in 98' to take the focus off the scandal.

Are you trying to say NATO shouldn't have gone into kosovo and they should have just let the people there suffer? Whatever you say about the US going into Iraq, at least they helped out in kosovo when the people were suffering under milosevic. Get the anti American goggles off.

daveirl

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David19

Hobbes wrote:

Actually I saw the report in question. You give him too much credit, it is not what he was implying at all. Compare that to his earlier "Dead or Alive" speech to all the victims of 9/11.

What amazed me was how Clinton could get so much flak for Monica and Bush get away with 1000 times more worse.

Well here is a press conference on march 13th, 2002. Im guessing thats where the quote comes from although oddly I can't find it in the most relevant section.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

"And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission. Terror is bigger than one person"

Hobbes

Actually that wasn't the interview I was talking about. It was a one to one interview on TV. Although after reading that I guess that is what he meant to say, but Karl was probably off taking a pee at the time.

FatherTed

daveirl wrote:

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It was actually Iraq that Clinton bombed in December 1998, not Kosovo. Right around the impeachment hearings.

luckat

Hey, don't. It's cruel to the people who loved people who died on the flights or in the buildings.

daveirl

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