Offshore wind development, needed but govt has head in the sand about fines for failing on emissions

loyatemu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016611#Comment_124016611

whatever about the heat pump and tesla, solar is pretty good from a payback perspective (again caveat on the FIT rate remaining high).

I reckon ours will payback after 6 years. The panels should last 20, the battery is a bit of an unknown but it's guaranteed to be at 80% capacity after 10 years.

There are companies who will do pay-as-you-go solar - this is a discussion for the Renewable forum really where there's loads of good information.

tppytoppy

I find it unsettling that people are so easy with large numbers. 1.6bn across 2.8 million actively employed in the economy is a large sum of money for each to bear and that is just one interconnector. Payback on home installations based off artificially inflated energy prices due to high renewable prices and other forms of generation loaded with carbon taxes. However under the current regime hoping to generate your own electricity is your only viable strategy because there is little prospect of prices going down. When faced with lunacy in government policy then self-sufficiency is your only refuge although once again the poor are left out in the cold as only the more well to do can take advantage of the incentives which are paid for by the 2.8m employed workers in Ireland.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016627#Comment_124016627

Batteries will continue to drop in price as Sodium batteries are coming to market now.

I think solar panel prices will plateau soon.

Busman Paddy Lasty

It is on the record that gas price inflation caused electricity price rises over the last few years.

Completely ignoring VAT and Corporation Tax as government income too.

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016611#Comment_124016611

15 panels (in donegal !) pretty much self sufficient form april to mid september only went in in april (apart from odd bad wet days)

4kwh battery which gets us through the night, ran the house and charged the battery yesterday (cos it was sunny )

ran out at 4am

have paid about 10 euro in electricity since april when they went in. getting more back than the money sitting in the bank, probably a 7 year payback depending on the feed in tariff.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016763#Comment_124016763

Awesome.

Is it easy to add another battery if you felt it was worth it?

Some people have 10 to 15 KW batteries.

ednwireland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016769#Comment_124016769

i believe we can just extend the unit we have, we know the company well that installed it as they are a facilities management company as well so hopefully will be around for a while (i actually think getting a decent company thats in it for the long haul is important - as much as you can these days)

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016575#Comment_124016575

Yes, I have a very modest installation and was essentially off-grid for more than 6 months this year.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016796#Comment_124016796

Do you've a battery also?

How big?

Do people buy them from China like Alibaba or just from the company who installs them?

hans aus dtschl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016817#Comment_124016817

I have 8kW. I bought from an Irish installation company and got an SEAI grant. The tech does come from China unfortunately. I should have payback in 6.5 years but my arrays are poorly oriented. If I had all South-facing I'm confident I'd have payback in less than 6 years, likely close to 5 years. I would recommend the bigger battery personally.

Sorry all we're a bit off topic here but for orangerhyme, the numbers everyone I know are getting are a complete no-brainer if you have the capital to-hand.

bk

BTW on the possibility of Russia anchor dragging our DC interconnectors.

I watched an Engineers Ireland presentation by some engineers who worked on one of the interconnectors and while they couldn’t go into details for obvious reasons, they said they did extensive work on making sure the security of the interconnector and worked extensively with the security authorities on it.

HVDC interconnectors are normally buried under the sea bed, making them harder to damage by anchor dragging. It is still possible as we saw with Estlink 2, but also worth noting that they repaired the damage and had it back up and working within 6 months. Any such damage isn’t permanent, so while costly and annoying, it isn’t really a major issue.

I’d be much more concerned about our gas interconnectors, as we saw with NordStream 2, the damage can be much more extensive with explosives on a gas pipe for obvious reasons.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016868#Comment_124016868

A guy in France called Glubux has lived off grid for 8 years using recycled laptop batteries and solar panels.

He lives in the middle of France though so gets more hours of sunshine.

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124016716#Comment_124016716

Again, we face €20Bn fines if we don't de-carbonise in time so it's essentially free.

As an alternative 700MW continuously at €1 a unit would reach €1.6B in 95 days.

tppytoppy

You need to familiarize yourself with the concept of odious debt. The virtue signalers who insinuated themselves in to positions of influence have much to answer for.

KrisW1001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124018396#Comment_124018396

You need to familiarise yourself with the concept that laws still apply, even when you think they shouldn’t do because you’re special.

Sad to see that “let’s preserve a liveable climate for our grandchildren” is something that people object to. Hell, I don’t even have kids and I’ll be long dead before the worst happens, but even I can see why we can’t just keep pumping insulating gases into the atmosphere.

tppytoppy

The debts inflicted on the country will lead to future generations being spread to the winds and emigrating around the world long after you are in your grave and we no longer have to endure your virtue signalling. Already the indigenous younger generations are emigrating.

Virtue Signalers like you spout your clap trap contrary to the best interests of others in society.