Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183257#Comment_123183257

They are actually worse than we were under Hodgson.

Marty Bird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183162#Comment_123183162

Correct.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183257#Comment_123183257

Liverpool haven't finished lower than 8th in the top flight since getting promoted under Shankly in 1962

That includes Souness, Hodgson, Evans years.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183149#Comment_123183149

Pep was Bayern's manager that season, was Pelligrini at City

Dr Robert

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183366#Comment_123183366

On the field worse, but off the field Liverpool were much more precarious.

Osmosis Jones

They still haven't suffered enough imo, long may it continue 😁

8-10

Joe Gomez needs surgery and likely out for the season

Awful luck for him

Osmosis Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183707#Comment_123183707

This must be his 4th or 5th major surgery by now, poor lad.

noodler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183162#Comment_123183162

Exactly right.

The Rooster

Poor Joe. I was really hoping he’d be our starting left back for a good chunk of the run-in.

Ottoman_1000

I just saw a message on the general premier league thread. I didn't realise, or I'd completely forgotten that, UTD had a 5 point lead with just 4 games left, the year the lost to City on goal difference. And we're lead to believe that 7 points with 14 remaining is insurmountable.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184285#Comment_123184285

And they'd an 8 point lead with 6 games left.

BoardsMember

Who is leading you to believe our lead is insurmountable. Nobody is convincing me of that. I like where we're at, but no chickens being counted.

Ottoman_1000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184330#Comment_123184330

Literally everywhere you read and look in the media, and online, the narrative is Liverpool would require a complete meltdown to lose it from here! Its obviously nonsense, and only said to get a reaction, but I just can't get over how much that narrative is being driven.

ronjo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184350#Comment_123184350

Pool are 2/7 approx which I think is fair enough…. I would personally have them slightly shorter odds but wouldnt be arguing about it.

McBain11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184350#Comment_123184350

Do people actually believe that an Arsenal team consisting of a forward line of Trossard, Sterling, Nwaneri and Merino are going to go on a huge winning streak? They've yet to win 4 PL games in a row in the entire season. Havertz and Jesus out for the season, so they have no real centre forward option.

If people look at it coldly and logically, this Arsenal team are not winning anything near all of their remaining fixtures. No chance whatsoever of that happening.

If you come to that conclusion, and believe that Arsenal could well drop points in 3 or 4 of their remaining fixtures - then it would take a complete collapse in Liverpool's form to lose the title. The wiggle room for dropped points is absolutely huge while still winning the title.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Trossard, Sterling, Nwaneri, Merino are the second coming of the Barca dream team of Stoichkov, Romario and Laudrup.

All things stand, it's more likely that Liverpool win the title by more than the current 7 point advantage they have, than Arsenal end up winning the title.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184441#Comment_123184441

In fairness 4 PL wins in a row this season is the most Liverpool have managed

rob316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184285#Comment_123184285

That so they can say Liverpool bottled it if they don't win the league. Its predicatable and childish.

Reality is though if we can maintain a 7 point lead after this month and Arsenal still have to go to Anfield, the league is over. Our march and april are fairly decent.

McBain11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184454#Comment_123184454

So, you don't expect Arsenal to win anything like the remaining 13 games in a row? You expect them to drop points in a few of their remaining games?

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184466#Comment_123184466

The great joy is you don't need to expect or predict anything - you can simply look at the number of points remaining (39), the size of the gap (7), the fact they play each other again, and see that yes, it is entirely possible in any number of ways for that gap to be closed in that time.

No need to be so absolutist about events before they happen, just fckin watch and enjoy.
Liverpool obviously comfy favourites, but far stranger things have happened in football. Which is why we watch football.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184466#Comment_123184466

I expect both teams will drop points, you seem really optimistic about Liverpool - and that's great, we're strong favourites and everybody knows it! But I think you also expect everybody else to be as confident as you are.

Don't worry so much about what other fans think - we're all hugely enjoying this season. If some people want to debate the difficulty of some remaining fixtures then that's what this thread is for!

McBain11

I agree completely Rebel. I am thoroughly enjoying the current PL season and I have no doubt I will enjoy the remainder of it. I am very confident of that.

Most of the comments from myself in the past few days are in response to the harbingers of doom who can't see anything but Liverpool dropping points in upcoming fixtures while Arsenal steamroll all in front of them. It's embarrassing make believe with no basis in reality (especially from Arsenal's point of view with their current injury problems).

The only thing in your post I'd challenge is that it's also entirely possible in any number of ways that the gap could be widened to Arsenal by the end of the season.

Cartman78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123183701#Comment_123183701

Exactly.....for me the pace of decline is almost too quick...if they keep going at this rate then they might actually get their sh1t together sooner rather than later.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184510#Comment_123184510

Just ignore them - as I say as long as you're enjoying the games that's great. I got rid of Twitter because of the FSG negativity (among other things) being brought into literally every post about the club good or bad.

McBain11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184486#Comment_123184486

Same as yourself, I expect both teams to drop points. It's Liverpool who have the 7 point lead though (it's a big lead no matter how you square it), and for Arsenal to reel them in they need a massive run. I simply cannot see it happening for them. The damage was done with their results earlier in the season, and now they have a disastrous injury crisis up front.

tbh, I don't expect anyone to feel any kind of way. I'm very optimistic Liverpool will win the title and it's one of the most enjoyable PL seasons I've watched for a variety of reasons. I just can't stand the harbingers of doom predicting Liverpool are going to drop points all over the place from here on in. It's not based in any reality.

Liverpool have lost 1 PL game in 25. Unbeaten away from home. Destroyed the Budesliga winners at Anfield, beat the CL and La Liga winners at Anfield. This is a really top side, even if performances haven't been great the past week or so. Maybe everything isn't no miserable for Liverpool and it isn't certain to end in doom!

Hooked

2 things…

A seven point lead could be a 2 point lead if we were to draw to Villa and lose to City… and Arsenal win, of course. That's just between now and Sunday. So the "7 points" isn't nearly what people make it out to be, IMO.

And second… the season is catching up with the players (fatigue, form, injuries, etc…) in recent weeks - or so it seems.

The next 3 games will define the table, I think. I'm just glad it's Arsenal that are hunting us… and not City. Pity about the Everton game, because a 9 point lead would have been a turning point. If we come out of Feb with the 7 point lead… then I'll start to get giddy.

citytillidie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184619#Comment_123184619

How can it be 2 points ? 7 + 1 - 3 is 5 Arsenal are only playing 1 game while Liverpool are playing 2

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184660#Comment_123184660

Liverpool + 1 to make it + 8 then Arsenal win their two games to get back to level in games played means -6 which gives a gap of 2.

BorneTobyWilde

We've done well maintaining our lead.

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184816#Comment_123184816

Fair going for ange to survive that run of results.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184847#Comment_123184847

Gone in summer most likely, with Erik Ten Hag replacing him. Spurs would take CL football, 3 finals, 2 cup wins.

Looking as Spurs, again we should appreciate our owners and how we're run

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184847#Comment_123184847

Yeah mate, but you know mate, their entire team are injured and even their tea lady hurt her arm mate, you don't see anyone writing about them though, do you mate? 😋

mormank

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184441#Comment_123184441

Sure, and by that logic there is simply no chance whatsoever of Leicester city, a team who almost got relegated the season before, would ever win the league the following season, no chance whatsoever….oh wait…football is a funny old game and strange things can happen, especially now when it's as much about mentality as it is football skills.

Just out of curiosity what exactly are you trying to achieve by coming in here telling us all how impossible it is that we don't win the league from here? Nobody cares mate tbh. Just forget about it

mormank

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184549#Comment_123184549

It's based on being a Liverpool fan for 30 years.

McBain11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185023#Comment_123185023

Just for clarification purposes, I never once said it was impossible Liverpool don't win the PL title from here. Not once. It's a sad state of affairs when many Liverpool fans need to twist and contort what's being said - all to give rise to the most pessimistic thoughts having some sense of a basis in reality.

Jaysus, I'd hate to have your perspective of the last 30 years as a Liverpool fan - it must be pretty grim. Imagine thinking the worst all the time, even as the team and players in front of you prove how good they are week after week.

Anyways, I'll leave it there. I just hope those players who lost hardly any football matches this season don't all collapse and die with exhaustion over this period of 5 games in 14 days. If they don't all die, they might, they just might win the PL title.

ShamoBuc

Player fatigue is most certainly a thing and players sometimes need a rest. The opposite is also true. MacAlluster, Grav and Sobo were well off it the last time. Some players need to be playing to keep their form. A week long break at this stage of the season can sometimes have the opposite effect.

citytillidie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123184813#Comment_123184813

Poster said until Sunday

citytillidie

Some good news no Rio on the commentary team tomorrow night

jasonb

Something to be aware of for all of us fans who are really hoping we win the league, but have been burned enough times in previous seasons to still worry that it could still all go wrong :- We are probably going to lose at least one more game. It could be tomorrow night, it could be in May. But we are probably gonna lose a game or two, and drop points here and there. As far as I know, only three teams have lost less than 2 games in a Premier League Season, so the chances of us going unbeaten for the rest of the season are pretty slim. We just need to remember that when it happens, that doesn't mean we have blown our chances!

Of course, Arsenal will probably drop points too! Ideally, when we do drop points, hopefully they will do so at around the same time (as has happened in the last couple of months) so that there is no momentum shift. If we can keep them at arms' length, then we should win the league. If we drop points when they don't, and they get much closer to us, that's could cause a momentum change and it will get really nervy then!

Cartman78

Mignolet just saved a penalty in the Champions League!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯

brevity

I think the City game will be a real challenge which is why 3 points tomorrow is very important

citytillidie

Benfica or PSG then can't see Brest coming back from 3-0 down tomorrow night

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185763#Comment_123185763

Already decided that I'm gonna skip that one and hope we get through to the quarters. Hope I don't regret it!

Benfica would be a great draw

~Rebel~

Just took a look at the table from this time last year - after 25 games we were top, with just 3 points less than we have now. And of course in the end we finished 9 points behind City and 7 behind Arsenal in the end. Now, a big difference of course is that City are out of the running - but interestingly, despite all the negative talk on Arsenal, they only have 2 fewer points than the same time last season, with their best player due back in a few games time.

So it's no surprise some of us are a wee bit cautious about getting too carried away, particularly as we see players starting to look tired since we literally just saw this same squad hit a wall last March and grind to a halt. Hopefully it's something they've learned from, and can push on another level this year and get it done.

8-10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185877#Comment_123185877

Also 3 games ago in La Liga Real Madrid were 7 points ahead of Barcelona

Barcelona are now top.

It can change very very quickly so there's no way I'd be getting carried away yet

brevity

I will be absolutely sickened if we don’t win the league this year.

Ottoman_1000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123186286#Comment_123186286

We’d all be sickened, but there’s such a long way to go that anything can happen. We have tricky fixtures coming in the next 2/3 games, where we are most likely going to drop points. But then Arsenal has Forrest, UTD, Chelsea and away to Everton once we City out of the way. So, they’ll drop points in there too. If we can get 4 points from Villa and City, that would be huge.

Rugbyf565

tonight is the make or break game IMO

FernandoTorres

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123185915#Comment_123185915

Barca haven't lost a game since before Christmas. They've been scoring goals for fun including beating Real 5-2 away from home as well as putting 13 past Valencia over two games, 5 past Benfica and Betis. I don't think it's fair to suggest Arsenal are in the same boat.

Ottoman_1000

On tonight’s game, I wonder what Slot will try with his approach? A few others and I on here, have mention how teams are now just packing the middle against us, pressing us higher, and slowing down our out ball, blocking the passing lanes and disrupting our build up play from the back, it’s really effecting how Gravenberch can dictate things in particular. They also spoke about it on The Walk On podcast, one of the guys was at both the Everton and Wolves games, and he said it was really evident at the games how we were struggling to move around the centre midfield blocks from both teams, and players were looking around at each other looking at little lost.

I think the main reasons are, teams know we have little treat out wide when coming out with the ball, Robbo doesn’t really offer anything going forward anymore, and Trent’s is either cutting in, or just directly passing from the back, he doesn’t go forward and offer any width to our play. I’d really love to see if Bradley can make a difference if he gets a start, he at least will carry the ball into open space on the wing and look to get to the by lines.