F1 2024 - Round 16 - Italy- Monza

flazio

Feature race in F3 will start shortly, final race of the season. Ireland's Alex Dunne starts P2.

Quick update on Alex Dunne from yesterday's sprint. Started 7th and fought his way up to 4th at the line however a 5 second penalty for 2nd place finisher Montoya promoted Alex to the podium in 3rd.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569383#Comment_122569383

Excellent race but Dunnes pace completely fell off. Great race between Fornaroli and Mini, Fornaroli just licking the stamp and sending it down the inside of parabolic to win the championship was fantastic

flazio

Holey Shamoley that was some racing. Sadly Alex didn't have the pace, did lead early on and I dared to dream Amhrán na bhFiann was coming but sadly not to be. P5 in the end as the championship leaders went through and had a great race.

mr_edge_to_you

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569125#Comment_122569125

Its clearly a number of things - other teams making gains, much better drivers and clearly there is issues in RedBull (seems like a bit of **** show TBH).

Bringing Piastri on board was a master stroke by McClaren. I think it has pushed Lando on too.

Andrew76

But of a wild start to the F2 race. Will be interesting to see Bearman and Antonelli scrap it out.

Jacovs

F2 race. Bortoleto started last in 22nd position,and has now won the race with a 9 second gap.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569509#Comment_122569509

Some drive from Bortoleto going from 22nd to 1st and winning by 9 seconds

Irish Aris

Bortoleto got lucky with the safety car timing but he drove well - and has drived well all season. He is now with a chance for an F2 title. Will be interesting to see how McLaren handles him.

Andrew76

Decent race that. Soon as Will Buxton comes on the mic it’s time to turn it off though, Jesus he’s insufferable. 😁 Great win for Bortoleto, only 10.5 points behind Hadjar now, game on. Decent scrap between the Prema drivers too.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569323#Comment_122569323

Awe OK.

Yes maybe the wind tunnel ban is beginning g to bite now for Red Bull.

Gerrymandering reborn

The Porsche Supercup race is currently on and it's bloody brilliant!

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569104#Comment_122569104

This was debunked as a conspiracy theory. The FIA confirmed that no team on the grid was running anything related to this change and it was changed to close off potential future loop holes.

The reason Red Bull have been falling behind is because of the handicapping system. For example, the other three top teams have specific Monza spec rear wings that they developed just for this track. Red Bull don’t have enough CFD and Wind Tunnel time to design an entire new wing just for one race so they’re just running their existing wing on its minimum downforce setting. This has resulted in them having a much lower top speed than the rest making it nearly impossible to be competitive at this circuit.

This was the intention of the new rules and the handicapping system, ultimately no team will be able to remain on top for long.

On the plus side for Red Bull, sacrificing Monza means they might not be quite as far behind the other teams on development capacity of the standard package going into the following races.

PsychoPete

F3,F2 and Porsche cup have been fantastic races so hopefully the F1 is the same. Sky really love the idea of team orders to favour Norris

Itssoeasy

Jesus brundle with the oasis references early.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570196#Comment_122570196

Do you ever dream of a day where Sky Sports has to cover a Formula 1 season with no British drivers on the grid?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570131#Comment_122570131

"This was debunked as a conspiracy theory. The FIA confirmed that no team on the grid was running anything related to this change and it was changed to close off potential future loop holes."

"Awe OK"

"The reason Red Bull have been falling behind is because of the handicapping system. For example, the other three top teams have specific Monza spec rear wings that they developed just for this track. Red Bull don’t have enough CFD and Wind Tunnel time to design an entire new wing just for one race so they’re just running their existing wing on its minimum downforce setting. This has resulted in them having a much lower top speed than the rest making it nearly impossible to be competitive at this circuit."

It will be interesting to see where they both finish today.

"This was the intention of the new rules and the handicapping system, ultimately no team will be able to remain on top for long."

Yes great idea. Hopefully it keeps it competitive.

"On the plus side for Red Bull, sacrificing Monza means they might not be quite as far behind the other teams on development capacity of the standard package going into the following races."

I guess we will see at the next few races.

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570239#Comment_122570239

I'd much prefer if they lost F1 altogether

Jordan 199

Bongiorno.

ricimaki

Chance of rain here. Could be a very interesting race!

Itssoeasy

A risk of rain which isn’t what I expected to hear.

Itssoeasy

Russell locked up.

Itssoeasy

ah Jesus Lando.

PsychoPete

Go on Piastri!

Jacovs

Piastri way more ruthless than Norris. Half a gap, take it.

quokula

Lando suffering the consequences of his petulant behaviour at Hungary here. He made it clear that he doesn't believe in team work so why should his teammate?

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570337#Comment_122570337

I'm sure Mclaren will find a way to screw over Piastri

PsychoPete

A 10 second penalty for a collision and causing a retirement is ridiculous

Hijpo

Perez didn't have much on Russle even with DRS, that's crazy slow on a lengthened straight with DRS right?

klose

Missed the start what happened Lando? Another poor start?

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570370#Comment_122570370

No he got the pass done but it looked like he wasn’t going much faster then Russell.

Itssoeasy

Christ Lando relax.

Itssoeasy

ah that’s very unlucky for Danny ric. The mechanic just instinctively touched the car.

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570379#Comment_122570379

That's what I mean, I would have expected him to get that done way earlier. It's not like he came from a mile away he was 0.2s away when he opened DRS

thefa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570375#Comment_122570375

He got away cleanly and led after turn 1/2 but Piastri got the sliptstream and caught him napping into turn 4/5. Put him out of line and LeClerc got him too.

flazio

KMag needs to be careful, he's close to a race ban if I remember.

klose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122570427#Comment_122570427

one to keep an eye on, has it ever happened before?

klose

Few messy pit stops today

thefa

Would love to see LeClerc hold onto this. Winning in front of the Tifosi would be great. Hope bringing him in earlier than they had to doesn’t cost him.

sioda

Wont be a bit of rubber left on those Ferraris at the end.

Good run by Colapinto tbh

PsychoPete

I hate hearing that sh!te from Crofty and Brundle wanting Norris and Piastri to swap positions

Andrew76

Jesus Crofty with more stupid suggestions asking should McLaren tell Piastri to let Norris by… So basically reward Norris’s mistakes then. Of course not, Piastri has been the better driver today.
Come on LeClerc. 😁😁

Itssoeasy

I think the fans in Monza will be happy. The best podium position in F1.

Andrew76

Lovely stuff! McLaren fecked that race up. 😂😂

oceanman

great win by Leclerc.

antodeco

That was a sneaky chance taken by Ferrari. Accidentally on purpose they'll claim. Great win for LeClerc. Great points haul for both McLaren and Ferrari

thefa

Always happy when LeClerc wins. Classy driver who would have had a lot more wins but for the car. Usually switch off for the trophy presentation but this could be good.

Itssoeasy

only ten points in the constructor's championship between red bull and McLaren.

Dont be at yourself

Delighted for Charles, and hoping it's the sign of greater things to come for Ferrari.

McLaren still not realizing they are in the drivers championship unfortunately. Piastri overtaking Norris and then turning the first stint into a sprint instead of managing the Ferraris cost them victory. With Max down in 6th it's such a missed opportunity.

Longing

I did think before the start of the race when I heard the Italian national anthem would we be hearing it again today. Forza Ferrari.

Itssoeasy

monza do podium celebrations brilliantly.