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Removing cistern by cutting overflow pipe

  • 18-08-2024 3:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I have to replace the siphon on my Shires model toilet. On this model, the inlet is on the right and the overflow is on the left, both right angled straight into the tile for my maximum convenience:

    Looks like the overflow pipe is pushed over the pipe that goes outside so maybe the toilet was installed and then a plastic overflow pipe pushed in from outside. Seems designed to annoy me anyway.

    I can't see any way to get the cistern up but to cut off the overflow and blank it off. I can get a siphon with a built in internal overflow then.

    Is this usual for plumbers to have to deal with? Seems to be a pain in the backside.

    At least the close coupled wingnuts look fine but the cistern screws are lumps of rust because of course they are. So I'll have to have a hacksaw blade handy anyway 😒



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Hi ya. Just guessing here but loosen off the nut on the inlet and the retaining screws on the cistern and the wingnuts, then give it good shake and see if the overflow frees up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭carveone


    I'll try that, thanks. It depends on whether the overflow connection is solvent welded to the overflow pipe or not. If not, it might pull off and save me some messing. I'll gather the parts anyway and give it a go. Sure if everything goes pear shaped, I can call a Real Plumber and use a bucket (to pour water into the toilet, not to use instead! 😄)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭carveone


    FYI (after 2 months when the toilet finally quit on me and I was forced at gun point to fix it).

    The overflow into the wall was only a short piece of plastic pipe with the connector just friction fitted. As soon as I titled the cistern forward, it came loose. Easy.

    I had to cut off one of the rusted screws going into the wall but the wingnuts were grand. Had to reuse the close coupling bolts because, for some bizarre reason, the kit I got had bolts where the thread didn't got up far enough! So no way to tighten up. Really weird. And annoying.

    Note the cloth over the pan entry hole. I nearly had a goddamn heart attack when I realised a dropped screw would mean taking the pan out.

    I also have a new appreciation for plumbers 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Ha! Good one. And you retained your modesty with a nicely poised cloth. 😁



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