Diesel vs Full Petrol Hybrid

booksale

Hi

I do 70km daily rural driving 5 days a week.
I wonder whether it is more economical to get a diesel. Or a full non plug-in petrol hybrid.

It seems they don’t do diesel hybrid

and I am thinking a Toyota Yaris full hybrid. But not sure yet. A new one is about 22k, which isn’t too pricey.

kaahooters

in my experiance, the fuel econemy will be about the same for diesl vs hybrid for a like for like (55 - 60 mpg / 4.7ish to 5.1 ish lp100km), so, an auris/ corola will get the same as an octavia (close, not perfect, comparison on cars size and weight wise), but, the benifits of teh hybrid win out for me, automatic, quieter, usually a slightly better spec toys wise with the hybryd (older ones anyway).

yagan

We have an old 2L Diesel that does about 5.5L per 100km and a relatively new non hybrid 1L petrol which does about 6.5 per 100km. Without doubt the petrol is the easier to drive and I definitely will be finishing with diesel when I swap out the old workhorse.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356742/diesel-vs-full-petrol-hybrid

Is diesel fuel not still generally cheaper than petrol ? Could be significant if covering big miles at some point.

booksale

Yes, diesel is still generally cheaper at the moment.

a used diesel, a few years old, costs about 20k already with a 100000 km done with the car.

So a brand new self charging hybrid which costs a few thousands more is attractive!

The cost of fuel is a factor. And a friend said a petrol hybrid (full self charging one) and a diesel cost similar. But the maintenance cost of a full hybrid would be much higher … Any ideas ?

fits

could you get an electric car? Miles cheaper to own and run and getting quite affordable now. You’d need to be able to charge at home.

booksale

I’m doing 70km a day. Is electric car good for the distance ?!?!! I

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289091#Comment_122289091

Yes, possibly ideal. What is your weekly fuel costs? EVs and home charging can be 40-80% cheaper to fill on electricity. Ideally you want something similar size with a big battery. Similar to the Yaris is a Renault Zoe but you would be looking at a used one in that price bracket. There is a lot to learn on EVs so do your homework. The cars are great. The real world range is less than claimed and when travelling very long distances (above 200/300km) you may need to charge in public to get home. You need to haggle well on price but it may make sense for you. It will be far cheaper to run than diesel or petrol hybrid.

fits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289091#Comment_122289091

ideal. Have over 80k km on mine and live rurally as well. Never need to use public chargers or visit fuel stations. It’s full every morning.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289091#Comment_122289091

Perfect for pretty much any EV. I do 70km per day, 5 days a week too. It can be done in an old 24kWh Leaf which can be got for around €5k for a 2014/15 model, of the newer version from 2018 for around €10k which will easily do that mileage. Cost of electricity will be circa €10 per week depending on your rate.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289045#Comment_122289045

A hybrid has the exact same maintenance costs as diesel, if not less.

booksale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289370#Comment_122289370

I am tempted! I do occasionally have trips of 300km one way in different towns, places where I dont know well. My concern would be how I can be sure the car will be charged and I would be able to make it home. Also, other than commuting to work 70km daily, I do have to do some parental duties drop and pick which can be another 40km on top of the 70km. Do you think it's still doable?

I do have a covered garage and I think I can install the home charger if needed as there is also a socket or two there

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289567#Comment_122289567

Theres loads of €20k EV’s that can do close to 300km on a single charge. And there are charge points located all across the country and on every major motorway

Buddy Bubs

Your 22k budget for a Yaris will get you a used EV in around 3 years old

The 70kms + 40kms extra is absolutely not an issue at all

300km one way will need public charging for sure, are you talking about 600km round trips in a day? I did Dublin to Cork yesterday return but I know that route and have fast charging options in Cashel and fermoy whichever takes my fancy. You'd have to think hard about an EV for that kind of usage but if it works, the savings are significant

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289567#Comment_122289567

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-3-range-plus-driving-assistrare/37251745?campaign=3

This will do what you need within budget and beats the shít out of a yaris eh?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289712#Comment_122289712

Very high mileage for a 4 year old car

Dtoffee

I changed from a Nissan X trail to a Rav 4 hybrid (not plug in) a year ago and while my milage is not huge, I can say with certainty that the Rav 4 wins out for me. I used to get three weeks out of the Xtrail before having to refill, I get four now with the Rav 4.

900KM shows on a full tank (circa €80)

The other bonus is that I have 3 years free service.

The only real difference I notice is if I want to overtake ……. the Rav 4 is not exactly responsive when I put the foot down (whereas the Xtrail had plenty of initial poke).

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289721#Comment_122289721

200k klms. It's not mad mileage, but it's just the cheapest M3 on DD and posted as an example. There is one for under €22k with 128k klms. The OP would be doing 20k per year, which is similar enough to me. I would aim for a lower mileage personally, but all would be budget dependent. I'd worry about a high miler Leaf, but not a high miler M3 for obvious reasons.