Draft Maynooth and Environs Joint Local Area Plan 2025 - 2031

Seth Brundle

Just got this from Kildare Co Co…

Kildare County Council and Meath County Council have published a Joint Local Area Plan for the Maynooth and Environs area. 

The Draft Maynooth and Environs Joint Local Area Plan 2025-2031 (Draft Plan) comprises a written statement and maps and these documents may be inspected from Wednesday 19th June to Thursday 1st August 2024 (during normal opening hours) at the following locations:

Online at: https://consult.maynooth.ie

Maynooth Community Library, Main Street, Maynooth, Co. Kildare.

Planning Department, Kildare County Council, Áras Chill Dara, Naas, Co. Kildare. 

Planning Department, Meath County Council, Buvinda House, Dublin Road, Navan, Co. Meath C15 Y291

Ratoath Municipal District Office, Drumree Road, Dunshaughlin, A85 XK20

 

A public information session will take place on Wednesday the 10th of July from 3pm to 7pm at the Technology, Society and Innovation Building (TSI Building) Maynooth University, Kilcock Road, Eircode W23 X04D. 

Kildare County Council and Meath County Council now invite submissions in respect of the Draft Plan and accompanying reports (including environmental reports) before 4pm on Thursday 1st August 2024.  Your name and address should be stated in your submission, and where relevant, the body or organisation represented. Children or groups/associations representing the interests of children are welcome to make submissions. Please make your submission in one of the following ways only (Late submissions, e-mail or faxed submissions will not be accepted): 

Online at https://consult.maynooth.ie ; or

• Senior Executive Officer, Planning Department, Kildare County Council, Áras Chill Dara, Naas, Co. Kildare, orSenior Executive Officer, Planning Department, Meath County Council, Buvinda House, Dublin Road, Navan, Co. Meath C15 Y291.

 

Submissions/observations made within this period will be taken into consideration before the making of the Maynooth and Environs Joint Local Area Plan 2025 – 2031.

A report will be prepared on submissions received and will include the names of those who made submissions. This report will be published on our websites. Details of your privacy entitlements and obligations under GDPR can be read here:

www.kildarecoco.ie/YourCouncil/GovernanceandCompliance/DataProtection/

www.meath.ie/council/your-council/your-data-and-access-to-information/data-protection

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS: 4pm Thursday 1st August 2024.

Will browse through it and come back with my own thoughts.

Staplor

If that ringroad from the M4 to the college is built by 2031 it'd be a miracle.

crl84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVEXdUXl77w

Only one junction on M4, either a new one to the west (and closing the existing one), or upgrading the existing one, seems a bit shortsighted….

A sliproad off the M4 westbound, and onto the M4 eastbound, at the site of the potential new junction, and keep the existing junction, would be a massive improvement. There's several similar on the M11 and M8 off the top of my head. Don't see the need for a full junction….

OwlsZat

Dart west expansion 2027, then 2029, now she's saying 2030. Seems to push out a year each time it's mentioned

SomeGuyCalledMi

Pedestrianisation of Main Street won’t go down well with nimbies. Also the opening up of gaps between estates will cause controversy. People seem to think the hordes of Babylon will come rushing through. But it’s great for kids and people in wheelchairs as well as the elderly.

People against it will make a lot noise. But those of us in favour need to make some noise too.

lordgoat

Some good ideas but the issue is they will continue to build houses before any of this is implemented.

There are some things that could come in immediately and make a difference like take all (non disabled/ age friendly) parking off Main Street. Open through ways to improve walking/cycling times.

I'd also love to see Parson St. go to one way and put in an actual footpath that's useful all the way from there to the maynooth town football club.

Also traffic calming badly needed on rathcoffey road, and yeah I'd even put in more pedestrian lights because way too many cars come through maynooth and that shouldn't be easy.

LuckyLloyd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122317481#Comment_122317481

I am shocked at the volume of objections on permeability in the submissions. Maybe shocked isn't the right word - disappointed is more apt. Mullen Park for example badly needs permeability access, at present residents there need to walk all the way around and via the entrance / exit to the petrol station in order to access the bus stop. As a general principle however, allowing people shortcuts through to the town or bus stops will obviously encourage greater pedestrian activity. It just makes sense

The incentive at present to use the car for every trip is massive. The idea that doing the obvious thing here will lead to mass amounts of crime and lack of safety is an utter nonsense.

L1011

People hate permeability, they're scared of teenagers from other estates walking around basically. Plenty of links put in by the NTA a few years ago are well used; people get used to the idea pretty quickly.

One of the submissions literally has a complaint of "people passing through that we do not know" ffs.

Mullen Park is meant to, and has planning permission to, have access to Carton Court and Greenfield Drive. Never built.

It is very obvious that a few residents associations have organised mass submissions as they're all extremely similar and mostly cover four estates.

LuckyLloyd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448070#Comment_122448070

There is one permeability point to each of Carton and Greenfield now in place. The builder has a temporary fence up covering them for now, presumably until the Green is finished. But they will soon be opened up. Badly needed!!

OwlsZat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122317481#Comment_122317481

Pedestrianisation won't go well with not in my back yard types? Main street is nobody's backyard. What are you trying to say?

The parking on the main street is a huge blot on a beautiful copybook. Returning the paths to their once regal size, would really give the main street the boost it badly needs.

LuckyLloyd

Council Response to the submissions here:

Draft Maynooth and Environs Joint Local Area Plan 2025-2031 - Outcomes | Maynooth & Environs Joint Local Area Plan Consultation Portal

Basically…no change. So now it will be down to Councillors to block all of the intent and import of the plan and back to square one again.

L1011

The stuff in this plan that got basically no comment is seismic, basically a second town centre; but there were hundreds of submissions on individual walkways. Madness

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122722841#Comment_122722841

They're already on it...

(Removed the other name as I lifted it from Facebook and thought I should, wasn't me though!)

LuckyLloyd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122722856#Comment_122722856

Absolute insanity. Essentially a few hundred comments complaining about permeability and another few hundred objecting to the idea that new housing might possibly be built near their house.

Only a handful of comments on zoning and town centre changes, etc from private individuals - and most of them just to argue against change.

Electric Nitwit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122722856#Comment_122722856

It needed better communication. I tried to read it but, honestly, I found it overwhelming and couldn't really get a handle on it. I guess many people were the same and probably just searched for the name of their estate, hence the replies just being about that

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122722856#Comment_122722856

Eh? Second town centre where? I read through it and the maps and didn't see anything like that in the plan.

Chief Officer was right to ignore most of the objections. Hysterical nimby nonsense of paedos, child snatchers and thieves descending on estates because of an extra path linking them to a road or an adjoining estate FFS.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122723983#Comment_122723983

Maynooth West Transport Oriented Development.

Arguably the Moygaddy bits are a third core too.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122724286#Comment_122724286

That identifies land out the Kilcock Road for residential use (between cemetry and Jacksons Bridge) , and "Research and Technology" use, which is described essentially as a business park with hi-tech tenants. Both to be close to the potential Maynooth West train station if it ever gets built.

Nothing about a new town centre or having any significant retail presence.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122726298#Comment_122726298

A new housing and employment cluster around a new transport hub basically is a second town centre. It's doesn't have to be a formal main street etc

FrankN1

Parking on the main street should be stopped. Pedestrian first is what we need. Some of the traffic lights in Maynooth are ridiculous. Waiting 5 minutes to cross the road. Cars last , people first.

Hellrazer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122735064#Comment_122735064

The one that really gets me is that not one driver in Maynooth knows what a yellow box is for - every night, every single yellow box is blocked by drivers coming from the N4 direction and then other drivers trying to turn right cant get out causing more traffic mayhem. Also I think theres 8 sets of lights from the N4 to the T junction at Maynooth village. Whoever decided to narrow the junction at that T with a traffic island should be brought out and shot.

A garda on a push bike issuing fines for blocking the yellow boxes / junctions and other offences is whats needed for a few weeks - it would be sorted very quickly.

I dont even bother shopping in Maynooth anymore because of the traffic.

Sooner the better the ring road is built.

Zebra3

Motorists are fully aware of what a yellow box is for.

A huge number of them though think they are entitled to break the law.

Same with parking illegally and running red lights.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122819720#Comment_122819720

Parking illegally and running reds I agree with you.

Driving into yellow boxes is more down to lots of people being oblivious morons IMO.