Anyone else feel ashamed of getting the Covid shots?

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122723146#Comment_122723146

Lockdowns were not "political". They reduced the number of cases (disease spread) during spikes.

Sconsey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122721975#Comment_122721975

A post full of conjecture, nonsense, and personal opinions, you are of course entitled to your opinion. Facts, verifiable data, peer-reviewed studies would be a better source, no sign of any of that from you.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122723146#Comment_122723146

Misrepesentation and avoiding facts does not make them go away no matter how much you wish them too.

"I have never used the term `chasing herd immunity`, herd immunity was always just an inevitable outcome. How we got there was the issue." From an earlier post of yours " What they call vaccine immunity is actually massively down to unackknowledged population immunity"So where did this massively unackknowledged population immunity come from ?

It certainly didn`t come from anti bodies of those previously infected as in Brazil or India. As to your "anyone for a spot of asymptomatic", when you have seroprevalance results showing just 7.3% with antibodies, the number of asymptomatics in a population would have to be over 70% to reach the required threshold. That idea is so bonkers calling it straw clutching wouldn`t come close.

What point you are trying to make on nasal spray vaccines I have no idea. From a Health Centre Medical Review Dec. 2023 nasal spray vaccines were still only indevelopment then with no date as to when they would be available or how effective they would be. So what was your point, that we should have let the virus run rampant until these sprays became available ?

It has been explained here multiple times that lockdown was used to prevent health systems becoming over run leading to the carnage we saw in Italy and Spain. It`s why Amazonas the epicentre of Brazil`s first wave went into lockdown when the second wave hit and showed that like everywhere else it was attempted, the idea that naturally acquired herd immunity from previous infection was a myth as Annika Linde, Tegnell`s predecessor as Sweden`s state epidemiologist said when their seroprevalnce result became public, a myth with no basis in reality.

On your deaths in Sweden. For 2019 deaths in Sweden were 88,766. For 2020 they were 98,124. 9,358 excess deaths (10.5%) higher than 2019. End of Dec 2020 Sweden became one of the first countries to begin mass vaccinations and for 2021 deaths had fallen to 91,958. A coincidence or down to your "massively unacknowledged population immunity" that you have not a shred of evidence to support ? The population of Sweden didn`t appear to have a problem deciding which. By 2022 they had the 5th highest number of vaccine doses per capita administered in Europe.

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Correct.

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122725546#Comment_122725546

I think my favourite point is the heart issues in middle aged people, which while more likely than someone who never got Covid, you were still more likely to get those issues with Covid and no vaccine. So if that is the gotcha the poster thinks it is, they are arguing for a Zero covid policy which was unworkable economically and politically.

greasepalm

Well it was that time of year again and got My Flu and Covid vaccine as my immune system is shot.

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Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122896105#Comment_122896105

Personally, no. Know several west kerry locals that have in the last few weeks. It's still around.