Waterford election hub

Beeker

Finding it almost impossible to get information online about the local election candidates. The new Waterford Election Hub does not work on PC or mobile. Antone else finding problems with it?

Bards

I see Jim Darcy FG has Cllr ón his posters above his name.. Surely this is fraudulent and should be forced to take these down?

Below is the official candidate list with existing councillors having C'llr next to their name

Speak Now

Posters are being reused from 2014.

Bards

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122154351#Comment_122154351

Should have been forced to hide/remove the C'llr above his name as could be bring the result into disrepute if he gets elected

SodiumCooled

Is there specific rules round what can be written on a poster? I’m not sure it would have much of an influence on the amount of votes he gets if I’m honest - it does look a bit silly though.

Speak Now

I'd say having Cllr before your name would more likely be a negative 😂

It won't be on the ballot paper anyway.

Beeker

Having a candidates name and party / no party listed is fine, but trying to get information on what they stand for or their background is impossible on line. There are a number of independent candidates standing but I cannot find anything online to help make a decision, posters are pointless and unless you get a flyer in the door with some kind of info, you are left in the blind. Not a great way to run a democracy, with informed voters.

Valhalla90

Ryan in Cork yesterday announcing funding left right and centre for their rail network. No planning even secured yet, while Waterford airport has full planning permission for the runway extension and private funding ready to go yet Ryan couldn’t give a toss. Please remember this on the 7th of June with the Greens running. Our Green TD just ignores my comments now on social media. Election Day will open his eyes his arrogance is shocking. Waterford definitely not in his heart!

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181569#Comment_122181569

ah shur its a fundamental part of green ideology, theyre hardly gonna come out and announce their full support for it, be realistic folks!

…marc is goosed though….

Yellow_Fern

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182147#Comment_122182147

The Greens are a major reason South Dublin wont get a metro for many many years. Im a former Green myself but couldn't touch them now.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122205560#Comment_122205560

was considering joining at one stage, but i know id be driven demented by them, theyre very out of touch, but then again, i think most parties are, i admire what they stand for and what theyre trying to do, but they havent a clue what theyre talking about, most cant afford what theyre advocating for…..

its disturbing we re still only talking about building a metro, but to be fair to the greens, its fault is not only truly with them, but we all current and former government parties and entities, modern rail networks is exactly what advanced economies require in order to advance!

Gardner

Just looking at the list of candidates and cant see really much change happening

Tramore and Waterford; can see the Greens losing a seat here and a gain by SF.
Waterford City East; another Greens loss and anything could happen with transfers.
Waterford City South; think there is a SF loss on the cards here with Bailey, think Reinhardt or a Soc Dem will take a seat.

Will be great to see no green Cllr’s or MEP locally after this week. General Election will happen between Sept and November as there is potential for 4 by-elections to be held (November by law) if the European elections play out and generally government parties loose these so they wont risk it.
Greens will lose their seat to SF (McGuinness) with Shanahan’s seat a dog fight.

ArtVandelay76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122217863#Comment_122217863

That's very optimistic for Sinn Fein. Would have thought Shanahan's seat was safer than Cullinanes.

If i remember correctly Cullinane got in with a record number of first choice votes, then shouted up the RA at his celebration party and then dissappeared for 4 years.

Quigs Snr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122217934#Comment_122217934

… indeed but Cullinane and Sinn Fein in general must be given huge credit for realising that appealing to hearts and minds, well the "minds" part anyway was a permanently losing strategy… and switching tactics to capitalise on the fact that the votes of the disaffected, the uneducated and also the terminally dumb count equally, so expect Cullinane's "lá" to "tiocfaidh" again. Quite comfortably too.

Wanderer78

id say sf are screwed in regards the ge, its looking like another ffg unfortunately…..

Rustyman101

Shanahan the only Waterford TD that actually questions the shite we are being constantly subjected to by the current unholy trinity.

SF only interested in the "party"

Unfortunately nothing will change in Waterford at least shanahan annoys them.

sadly that's the best we can ask for with the level of representation we have, all more interested in the party than the actual electorate they are supposed to represent.

Hopefully a few surprises to the current status quo.

Gardner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122217934#Comment_122217934

Hahaha i got a good laugh from this, do you honestly think Cullinane will loose 13-15k votes in the next GE, bonkers stuff. Cullinane has been probably the most vocal TD from Waterford during this term, all because of his portfolio within SF. He will loose about 2-3k going on the national opinion polls.

The next GE in Waterford will be SF (2) Cullinane (13k) and McGuinness (4-5k) FF (1) Mary Butler (5-6k) & FG or Ind (1) Cummins or Shanahan(5k) I don't know which one is the lessor of the 2 evils between those two. Note 1st pref estimates.

ArtVandelay76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122218463#Comment_122218463

Cheers Dave 👍️

Rustyman101

Couldn't pick two from the list above that I would vote for or that represent my POV, same rehashed crap unfortunately.

DC has been vocal alright but hasn't had much to say on issues that directly effect Waterford the constituency that elected him, but I assume he knows he's a shoe in so why bother !

I agree with your synopsis on the GE result unfortunately.

Valhalla90

Only guarantee for the GE is Cullinane and Shanahan. Butler is 50/50 . I cannot see the Green TD retaining his seat especially now with the airport fiasco ongoing. He would be no loss anyway.

azimuth17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122218463#Comment_122218463

Cullinane will easily get elected, but to suggest that he has been the most vocal Waterford TD is hilarious. He is afraid to even mention the word Waterford lest he offend anyone. Biggest disappointment ever. Shanahan has been diligent in pursuit of government and has published all his Dail contributions. Rest…..!

Rustyman101

100%

friendlyfun

Shanahan is quite old guard conservative. Not very different than Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil in his views. Published all his Dáil contributions but failed to declare he was a landlord.

azimuth17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222465#Comment_122222465

Says the SF voter! Failed to decalre one property AFAIK. A mortal sin! I bet he paid water charges too and probably goes to mass on Sundays.

Gardner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122224182#Comment_122224182

well **** me 🤣

decies

sickening to see all the people sucking up to the local candidates from government parties on Facebook . Have these people no memory or what !! They should all be wiped away in locals and general election with their fake and unfurfilled promises .

Valhalla90

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122229853#Comment_122229853

so true I don’t understand this! FG/FF/GP should be wiped out in Waterford.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122229853#Comment_122229853

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122230093#Comment_122230093

…maybe we should go with the fringe(extreme) newcomers, some seem to be well informed!

Valhalla90

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122230270#Comment_122230270

tbh the General Election is the big one in terms of getting the government out. We can’t sit here and say we are being left behind constantly if we keep voting FG/FF into power.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122230438#Comment_122230438

true enough, the ge is probably far more important, but that reality is, is looking very likely to be another ffg government, sf are screwed, many potential sf voters are running to the fringes, sf need every vote they can get, and thats currently looking very unlikely, so we better prepare ourselves…..

Valhalla90

SF has lost some ground but I wouldn’t rule them out yet! Independents are going to be strong next GE. Maybe with Butler in FF we have some hope but as for FG I can’t understand why anyone in Waterford could vote them after their record here.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122230531#Comment_122230531

a lot can certainly change over the coming months, but i just dont see sf making a way back, i could be wrong of course, but….

independents certainly do look strong, but disturbingly, some of them are of the extreme variety, and thats not gonna be pleasant, some will pull voters away from sf, causing a default towards ffg

jesus butler is awful, god love the poor woman, but she aint the sharpest….

plenty of people from the county will vote for both ffg

azimuth17

Mary Buter is worse than awful as a TD . Its sad really to hear her on WLR with Mr Tiernan perpetually trying to defend the indefensible as per attached spread sheet from SEPAG.

Wanderer78

any idea how counts are going?

914

You can keep and eye on it via this google sheets doc

tinyurl.com/WaterfordLE24

dzilla

Really good info thanks for sharing

JimWinters

WLR’s live stream is interesting to watch: https://www.youtube.com/live/TaO9SiN-mLY?si=oYSBaVNJldDtdzJc

914

The council also have a live tracker of the counts

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/f437fe95fe2547eca3fa233c576d74f0 city East

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/176a83ba78bd46b8b97ae54cef0b1cc5 dungarvan

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/a83f1fcc23664731b187cf2173001359 Portlaw/kilmac

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/f97130f43539426083d1569eaa61de1c Tramore/city west

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/cabb4550991f4ad2b71001471423884f Lismore

https://waterford-ie.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/0f81f00e94e046e5ba023707e5436cf9 city south

Wanderer78

…the people have spoken, and theyre just happy with the way things are!

Valhalla90

The local elections I feel are different. Voters know the representative on a personal level from their area and the actual political party I feel doesn’t really come into it. Maybe I’m wrong but the GE could tell another story!

914

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122236341#Comment_122236341

I would agree with this. You might be against X party, locally a member of X party helps you out or has some positive impact in your area with issues, chances are you vote for that person even though you won't give X party a vote in the GE.

I don't read into LE's ahead of GE's, like it could be looked at that SF have done poorly based on the last GE, but most of their candidates I have never heard of or possibly never even seen involved in anything locally hence why some of them are way down the votes.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122236341#Comment_122236341

this is gonna be one hell of a messy ge, and i think it ll default towards ffg, and in a way im kinna happy about that, im really glad we have the pr-stv sysytem, it makes it difficult for extreme minorities to steam roll all over the process, some scary stuff ahead though….

space2ground1

Does anyone know what delayed the Waterford council count yesterday? Seems like we were very late on count 1.

Finnbar01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122229853#Comment_122229853

In local elections voters tend to vote for people rather than the political party.

azimuth17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122236349#Comment_122236349

If you have paid any attention to what has gone on in Waterford over the past 13 years, then how you could default to FG is an absolute mystery to me, unless of course your name is Cummins!

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122237373#Comment_122237373

…oh watch this space, plenty are gonna come out and vote for ffg nationally, and some here in waterford to, theres really only 2 ge outcomes now, either sff or ffg, and at the moment its looking very much like ffg, id say sf are screwed, cant see them coming back from this now…

914

Not one green party candidate elected to Waterford council. Eamon Ryan did serious damage to them locally due to the airport.

Valhalla90

Greens messed up big time here in Waterford! Marc will gone come GE also.

914

While I do believe local is local and people vote for the person and not the party it's still hard to believe FG will be the largest party in the council.

Greens will suffer big time over the airport issue but FG have been in power 13 years and could have delivered the airport at any stage, although most of the FG support seems to be in the west of the county.

8 seats, 3 from the city/Tramore and 5 from the county

Isthisthingon?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122236341#Comment_122236341

I agree, I voted for people , not parties at the local elections. People I know personally and or have had dealings with in either a social/ professional capacity. Councilors with proven track records and those who I spoke with that impressed me with what they had to say. I want my local councilors to fix pot holes, repair paths, improve local amenities etc ( not literally obviously). I have said to many that they will get my vote but come general election their respective parties candidates most certainly wont.

Wanderer78

gonna be an extremely interesting few months, very concerning though to see this rise of the extremes, and the move back towards ffg, very concerning!