Time for the immigration debate to move on

Bobtheman

Personally I'm in favour of a zero refugee policy outside of the Ukrainians but even there we need reform

However I feel it's time to get the debate off the front pages for a number of reasons

You are only encouraging lunatics to burn down buildings

The idea that a group of men is dangerous just because they are men is stupid. Are the men in your estate vetted?

Let FG/FF reform the system or have a go at it next few months.

Housing and health are way more important issues but not getting attention because of this issue. Refugees are not taking accommodation that would otherwise go to Irish people. No evidence of that.

If a right wing party makes a break through it just makes it harder to form a government. They normally have generally unrealistic policies

We already have the total hypocrites of the Healey raes. We don't need more idiots

enricoh

Refugees are not taking housing that would otherwise go to locals- when asylum seekers leave direct provision where do they go? Narnia?

If right wing parties have unrealistic policies do u feel our current refugee policies are realistic n sustainable?

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JPCN1

I think the media were very happy to move the debate off the front pages. In fact they didn't seem to want any debate on the issue at any stage.

Those pesky voters thought git a bit uppity and want it out in the open much to the governments chagrin.

It's not going away.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336646/time-for-the-immigration-debate-to-move-on

This is yet another thread, ( you started one of the others) , so how do you think that is going to get it off the front pages, of boards anyhow ?

I agree with a lot of your post except that, Bobtheman .

zell12

Refugees are not taking accommodation that would otherwise go to Irish people. No evidence of that.

That is not true. The State brought Syrian refugees to Ireland in 2016, into hotel rooms for three months, then farmed out to local authorities to be housed. All while people were languishing on housing lists for a decade+, were couch-surfing or in emergency accommodation. People were told to find their own place which was difficult, as there was a housing crisis eight years ago too

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MilkyToast

The idea that health and housing are not affected by the introduction of more than 80,000 refugees in a single year in a country the size of Ireland with an ongoing health crisis, housing crisis, and a refugee induction system that wouldn't be fit for dogs let alone people, is facile.

Blaming immigrants for it is stupid - blaming a government that has allowed all the myriad contributing crises to go on unabated is absolutely reasonable.

Boggles

I agree.

Close the thread.

Bobtheman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121781752#Comment_121781752

You have a fair point. Unfortunately both FF/FG have their heads up the EU arse. They don't do planning when it comes to most things but especially immigration.

They will now reap what they sow now.

But I still believe we need to move on

The health service would still be bad regardless of the invasion by Russia

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donaghs

The people living near are actually vetted to some extent. They have documents saying who they really are, where and when they were born etc. If they have any criminal convictions in Ireland, this can be seen by the trusted authorities. You can even look most of them up on Linkedin, see where they went to school, college, and their job history, and sometimes their hobbies/interests. Even other people they know. Incredible :)

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121781932#Comment_121781932

If you're determined to bury your head in the sand and ignore certain contributing factors because it makes you feel uncomfortable to discuss them, then you're not serious at all about tackling any of the issues noted. Seems like you just want to have a whinge about housing and health. Which is entirely your prerogative, but you're not the arbiter of which social problems can be discussed in Ireland or for how long.

Just don't read the immigration and refugee threads if they upset you. Start your own housing and health threads or contribute to the ones already running. That is entirely within your power.

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121781944#Comment_121781944

Ahh the usual suspects resort to that line to try shut people up.

They accuse anti migrants/IPA chancers/asylum seeking chancers of being of a lower inteelectual capability but sometimes the absolute bullcrap they come out with is astounding.

The other line that even surfaced here is the one that adding hundreds of thousands of people that depend on the state to provide them with accommodation, healthcare, education and food has absolutely no effect on our housing, health system, schools is frankly something a primary school kid wouldn't come out with in a debate.

Their arrogance and superiority complex will be their undoing and sadly ours as well if they are given the time.

Ten of Swords

Mod - Are you serious?

Another immigration thread, this one about why we shouldn't talk about immigration anymore?

Hard pass

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