Ancestry DNA DNA matches Switzer & Dolmage Rathkeale Limerick

Lord Baron Lane 8

Most of my top Ancestry DNA matches are Switzer & Dolmage Rathkeale Limerick does this mean I have a Switzer our Dolmage from this area?

pinkypinky

Certainly possible but you can't presume anything - gotta do the research.

They're both Palatine names and locations.

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121722360#Comment_121722360

I have Taylor Surname Family that came from Rathkeale Limerick so the DNA link must be to them.

Mick Tator

Not necessarily. Also, there are several Taylor families around that part of Limerick. Betham's abstracts has some trees and Thomas Westropp has listed some.

Lord Baron Lane 8

Richard Taylor Marriage to Mary Dolmage August 8 1808 Rathkeale County Limerick Ireland.jpg

Marriage Richard Taylor to Mary Dolmage Rathkeale Limerick

Lime Tree Farm

If you do a search on the tithe applotment site entering the Switzer surname, all returns are Limerick areas. The last entry lists is Rathkeale.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Switzer&firstname=&county=&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=40

Mick Tator

They are Palatine families so they ae going to be found in that area. Just like my Ryans are from Tipperary. No big deal. The real part OP is to trace your Taylor/Dolmage family BACKWARDS to the marriage, and not jump to 1808 and assume a connection after 7 generations (Autosomal DNA is not very reliable at that distance) . Do the research, all the rest, to put it bluntly. is just fluff.

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121731735#Comment_121731735

Wow this is great information about Switzer surname nearly all Limerick Rathkeale area

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732126#Comment_121732126

what cM shared DNA are fluff as you call it ?

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732126#Comment_121732126

Confidence score Approximate amount of shared centiMorgans Likelihood of a single recent common ancestor Extremely high More than 60 cMs Virtually 100%Very high 45-60 cMsAbout 99% High 30-45 cMsAbout 95%Good 16-30 cMsAbout 50%Moderate6-16 cMs15-50% so which one of them is fluff in your words ?

Hermy

@Lord Baron Lane 8

If you really want to know whether you are related to the Switzer and Dolmage families from Rathkeale then, as Mick Tator says, you are going to have to do some research.

Anything less is just idle speculation.

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732460#Comment_121732460

When did DNA Matches of over a certain amount of cM become idle speculation?

Deregos.

@Lord Baron Lane 8

What might be one of your long lost cousins returned to Limerick to research his family history, while there he bought and restored an old cottage once owned by some of the Switzers.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/residential/arid-41014478.html

Mick Tator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732470#Comment_121732470

What is ‘fluff’? It’s stumbling on an appropriately suitable  surname and believing that there automatically is a relationship with a matching surname. That is not genealogy; neither is expecting autosomal DNA to bring you back 220 years. Nor is a bit of cut & paste of hype from a DNA company on the ‘confidence levels’ expected from their algorithms.

DNA is a help, but placing too much credibility and expecting a lot from DNA at low cM levels is daft. Contrary to what you posted, many matches below 7cMs inevitably are ‘noise’ – simply clutter, coincidence, or so far back that they predate records. (And not what you appear to believe.) You need to do more reading on the topic.

Lord Baron Lane 8

When you’re exploring your list of DNA matches, look for these confidence scores and let them help you focus your research.

Confidence Score Approximate amount of shared centimorgans Likelihood of a single recent common ancestor Description Extremely High More than 60Virtually 100%You and your match share enough DNA to prove that you’re both descendants of a common ancestor (or couple)--and the connection is recent enough to be conclusive.Very High45—60About 99%You and your match share enough DNA that we’re almost certain you’re both descendants of a recent common ancestor (or couple).High30—45About 95%You and your match share enough DNA that it is likely you’re both descendants of the same common ancestor or couple, but there’s a small chance the common ancestor(s) are quite distant and difficult to identify.Good16—30Above 50%You and your match share some DNA, probably from a recent common ancestor or couple, but the DNA may be from distant ancestors that are difficult to identify.Moderate6—1615—50%You and your match might share DNA because of a recent common ancestor or couple, share DNA from very distant ancestors, or you may not be related. This is from Ancestry DNA my Switzer DNA matches are over 52cMwhich which has a 99percent confidence rate .

Mick Tator

I don't need you to regurgitate that stuff. Most of us here have known it for years. If your Switzer matches are above 52cM they about 4 generations back so easily traceable on paper records, so do the research. (Hint - most of us here are helpful, and by mentioning >52cMs earlier would have been polite.)

Hermy

Genealogy is about who you are related to and how you are related to them.

Your DNA results only tell part of the story and to properly answer the question you pose in your opening post you need to do some good old fashioned research.

Without a paper trail that proves the link between you and your DNA matches you are indeed in the realm of speculation.

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732489#Comment_121732489

where did I say in my post my DNA matches where 7cM ? my DNA matches are over 52cM for the record that is not fluff as you call it . as you maybe aware Ancestry DNA has shared DNA matches this is very accurate so my Father and Mother have their DNA test done on Ancestry so I do know that my Mother has no Switzer our Dolmage DNA matches so when I go into shared DNA matches with my Father all of the Switzers Dolmages share DNA with him and Me also the Taylors who also have their DNA done on Ancestry DNA match with Switzers and so does my Fathers first Cousins who have also done their DNA also looking at all of the Trees they all have Rathkeale Limerick .

Lord Baron Lane 8

Jeremiah Lane Marriage to Catherine Taylor 1875.jpg

So this is my Catherine Taylor marriage November 1875 Limerick Fathers name Richard Taylor . So I need to get back 67 years to 1808 marriage of Richard Taylor & Mary Dolmage Rathkeale Limerick

Lord Baron Lane 8

This is a baptism Cert of my Fathers Grandfather Christopher Lane you can see his Mother is Catherine Taylor

Cert of Baptism of Christopher Lane 9_12_1876 Parents, Jeremiah Lane and Catherine Taylor. Sponser Richard Taylor.jpg

Lord Baron Lane 8

This is the death cert of my Fathers grandfathers brother Jerimiah Lane you will see his Mother is Catherine Taylor

Jeremiah Lane Death Cert from May 1917 Philadelphia American Heat Wave.jpg

Lord Baron Lane 8

Records of Marriages Rathkeale Limerick August 8 1808 Richard Taylor to Mary Dolmage

Marriage of Richard Taylor Irish Palatine Mary Dolmage Rathkeale Limerick.jpg

Lord Baron Lane 8

Rathkeale Limerick Birth Registers 1809 you can see Richard Taylor & Mary Taylor born Dolmage had a son also Richard Taylor . but you look at this list you will see a Irish Palatine Surnames Switzers also on this list .

Richard Taylor Rathkeale Limerick.jpg

Hermy

@Lord Baron Lane 8

People were replying to you based on the limited information you provided in your initial posts.

You neither stated how close your top DNA matches were to you nor to what extent you had researched your tree.

It appears from post #18 that you do indeed have a connection to the Switzer and Dolmage families.

You have a paper trail, you have had both your parents tested, and your shared DNA with your top matches is above 52cM's.

If this information had been provided in your opening post it would have greatly assisted other users in responding to you.

Lord Baron Lane 8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121732750#Comment_121732750

Thank You