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Ploughing championships 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Those exhibitions are all well able to charge. I was at one in Germany and it was €20 to eat some pasta and mince out of carton standing on my feet. Water in the scorching sun was €6 for 250ml, the equivalent of €24 a litre!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    In fairness @twin_beacon you've come on a journey yourself in this thread.

    To not believing the mchughs would charge for bark mulch and that all is rainbows and unicorns. To now accepting that a family member has sole bark mulch rights and can charge what they want.

    You don't know either the size of buckets each was charged. Could be different sizes. Or both could still be correct and different people are charged different rates.

    What we know it's not a transparent event. Or else there wouldn't be the "I don't believe it" thoughts from posters on this thread.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭DBK1


    There does be different machines delivering in the mulch alright. One could be a 416 JCB with an 8 foot bucket and the other a smaller teleporter with a 6 foot bucket so price does vary depending on the size of the bucket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    Yea, fair points. I've removed my last 2 posts. I never considered that different machines with different capacities could be used.

    Considering the state of the site this year, I think its poor form to charge exhibitors for mulch each day to keep their stands afloat, when some stands are going to be wetter than others for various reasons. IMO, it should be up to the organisers of the event to make sure the site is kept in some what decent order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭DBK1


    You’re slowly learning that the McHugh family and poor form just go hand in hand together.

    Greed is a terrible disease and one that no cure has been found for yet and unfortunately all of that family have it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    I think when mammy disappears from the scene things will change quite a lot. Junior has a doggish arrogant attitude and from what I hear not too well liked by many.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Well all I ll say is some of ye would nt want to go to electric picnic or a few games and concerts.higher prices go with the territory in events.to be honest I went to the ploughing as did 200000 more in absolutely bad condition.s and I enjoyed it.i spoke to a couple exhibitors since and they said that while conditions took the shine off things the problem was the crowds weren't buying,there was alot of price asking but no spend in people.this thread proves you can't please everyone but if 200000 came out in s ##t conditions they must get something out of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Green acre


    I suppose the question to ask is how many of the 200000 would say they would go again.it is on a bit of a downward spiral and the bad weather might just be a convenient excuse for drop in attendance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I was there myself too this year and I enjoyed it far more than I did last year despite the conditions. I think the mains reason for that was the smaller crowds.

    If there were 200,000 there but the crowds weren’t buying then does that not show whet the problem is? It’s attracting the wrong crowd now. Bus loads of teenagers are great for the sports stands, the funfair and the bars alright but aren’t much good to anyone there with a machinery stand.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Earlier someone mentioned the amount of government stands and that was the big thing we did this year spent more time in those and actually didn't look at half the machinery.it s a fantastic resource to be able to get face to face with people and got some super info and I drove home saying I had some many more things I should have asked them.we give the rest of our days on the phone or by email being handed from pillar to post dealing with these crowds whereas at the ploughing someone has to stand in front of you and answer your questions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    That’s a 1/3 less than recent years. And of that headline attendance how many of them are there to do any serious business? Far as I can see the vast majority of the crowd seems to be gangs of teens out on a boozing/shifting session. That’s why a lot of agribusiness are shifting their focus and resources elsewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Aravo


    When visiting the Director of Public Prosecutions/Irish Prison Service/The Courts service

    Were you able to get the charge reduced to a suspended sentence....

    Written in jest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Just curious as to what kind of info you were looking for? I often see these tents packed and often wonder what would people be checking, bps queries maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Some is to check everything is on track, there could be others with held up payments



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    The epa-background to this famous red and white map and the likely changes and how they acess rivers

    Geological service.great understanding of water and confirmation of some my own theories nearly spent a half hour or more with that poor divil

    Dept tent- checked about red clover scheme and a few other bits and pieces

    Ucd and mtu- did a bit of homework on the courses and what they cover available to our leaving cert student.

    A housing related matter and a couple more things that are none your business.😁



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.




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    Having a Google about hemp cos the day isn't fit for much else, loved this

    "Hemp fed to cattle can increase milk yield and aid digestion and help keep cattle calm."

    Would Hemp Bainne beat that lullaby milk or whatever it's called ?

    And a funny I just found

    https://x.com/Chumantastic/status/1405054962380455936?s=20

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Hemp Farming Ireland


    No farmer in their right mind would ever use hemp to bed cattle! It's way too valuable. Just looking at the image above tells you the information provided in the hemp tent at the ploughing was completely misleading and wrong - EU farmers do not use hemp flowers and leaves for compost, animal bedding and pharmaceutical products!! The flowers are primarily grown for food production by farmers across Europe in line with EU Ag policy! Latest available EU figures show only 1% of hemp flower grown on EU farms was used to make pharmaceuticals but over 80% was used to make food; that's what EU farmers grow it for, that's where the money is!!! Why are Irish farmers being fed this bullshit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    If this is Ming or some Wicklow farmer with hemp and no livestock.

    Then I'd recommend going to Kerry and talking to another hemp grower who is also in the EU and has livestock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Hemp Farming Ireland


    The people inside the tent at the Ploughing are the ones advising Irish farmers that hemp flowers and leaves are used for animal bedding, compost and pharmaceuticals! No mention of food whatsoever??

    Honestly, why would any farmer grow such a valuable crop for animal bedding whether in Kerry or anywhere else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Hemp Farming Ireland


    It just doesn't make any sense unless what the groups in the tent want is for Irish farmers to willingly contract to pharma companies rather than control their own hemp income streams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Aravo


    FJ must be reading this thread. DAFM spent €290,000 on ploughing 2023. That covers staff, marquee, pitch location, etc. Also there is NPWS cost at €130,000. This is seperate to the €290,000.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    A shocking waste of taxpayers money- an effective sweetheart subsidy to the mchughs for this dying (in a commercial sense) event. Without huge state backing this would implode now.



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