How many times a year do you go abroad be it for holidays or business?

AMKC · 24-07-2023 9:54pm #1

I think people should only be allowed one holiday abroad every 2nd year. Rich and poor alike.

Just take a look at Greece to see the damage that has been done to the World.

People going on two or three holidays a year is ridicules. It has to stop. Holiday at home more. If you do not like that though ****.

At least untill clean fuels are developed for planes.

Also plane flights are far too cheap. They need to rise at least 40 per cent. That might slow people from flying more.

Lewis_Benson · 24-07-2023 10:06pm

Jaysus you're some bag of misery.

Beasty · 24-07-2023 10:07pm

So far this year 7 return ferries to the UK, 1 return flight to Paris for gigs. Probably another 6 return ferries before the end of the year. All leisure

Back in 2006 I managed 13 return flights in a month (October 2006), some to matches, mostly on business

I have three quarters of a million Avios points to use before I croak it.....

seenitall · 24-07-2023 10:17pm

Twice to three times a year on average, once for family duties, the rest on holidays. Striving to make that 3 to 4 times a year. Baby steps. I more or less work and live for travel, in the main. That’s me, That’s the main thing I want to use my life on.

Padre_Pio · 24-07-2023 10:28pm

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Somewhere between 4-8 trips a year for work, mostly to US and sometimes Europe.

Probably do another 5-8 holidays a year, city breaks, that sort of thing.

Last few years is skewed though with COVID and things aren't back in full swing.

My biggest year was 18 trips with work, I was in the US for a week a month for a year, then in Germany for a week every 2 months.

It can be tough going, but it's been a long time since I spent money on a hotel room for myself, and usually free rental cars too. I don't get much use of the Avios points though. Work doesn't allow me to fly business class, so I have to hope for an upgrade that makes the transatlantics easier to stomach.

I treated my parents to a week abroad which didn't cost me a penny. They were thrilled.

StreetLight · 24-07-2023 11:11pm

As many as I can to get off this piss-soaked feckin island.

airy fairy · 24-07-2023 11:45pm

5 return flights, 1 return ferry, so far, and there'll be another return ferry soon and 2-3 more return flights.

Up until this year myself and my other half took the usual one holiday abroad with family and a few hotel breaks. This year hotel breaks have either been non existent because of availability, or beyond our budget.

I do my best to conserve, reuse, recycle in life. But there are limits. I need to live too. This time last year my other half was in an ICU bed fighting for life, and spent the remainder of the year battling cancer. Our kids are at an stage where we can leave them at home, so we intend to grasp every bit of life left in us and get sun on bones and value for money. That won't happen in this country.

Be right back · 25-07-2023 1:41am

Life is for living. Today I attended a funeral of someone in their mid 30s. Why not make the most of life when healthy and able?

eggy81 · 25-07-2023 3:43am

One holiday a year and maybe a match of two in uk. Sometimes don’t bother with a match. Tbh I’ll be looking to increase the number of holidays in the coming years. So I hope they don’t try to enforce anything like you are suggesting to keep us restricted to Ireland all year round.

bassy · 25-07-2023 3:53am

Zero

iniscealtra · 25-07-2023 5:02am

Once a year usually. Take the ferry usually. Much less hassle than the airport.

magicbastarder · 25-07-2023 5:09am

No more than one holiday a year by plane. Have been doing that for 15 or 20 years. Work also similarly light, maybe two trips a year pre COVID. Two since then.

dodzy · 25-07-2023 5:10am

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OP’s gonna love you.

fits · 25-07-2023 6:22am

Took ferry for main summer holiday. Flew for first time in six years last November. Going to try stick to one return flight a year. Don’t travel for work thank goodness.

3DataModem · 25-07-2023 7:02am

I spend almost half the year out of Ireland, mostly Australia, a little bit of Canada and US too. And some Europe. I burn a lot of aviation fuel, soz.

Cody montana · 25-07-2023 7:44am

3 normally.

Try to get a new country in every year.

HerrKuehn · 25-07-2023 7:49am

Twice so far this year, once to the US and also up to Newry. Planning on taking another few trips abroad (although not necessarily Newry).

Akrasia · 25-07-2023 7:52am

1 long haul flight can create 3 tonnes of CO2 per passenger. Half the world's population live generating less than 3 tonnes of CO2 a year.

All those business flights, are they really necessary?

First thing I'd do if I was in charge (after massively restricting private jets) is get rid of first class and business class and make everyone fly in economy. You can still fly. But you don't get to do it at twice - 5 times the carbon footprint of economy class.

Might put people off the more frivolous long haul trips as well

Akrasia · 25-07-2023 7:57am

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Why did you fly to Newry. How much time did that save you?

ancapailldorcha · 25-07-2023 7:59am

About 4-6 times. Only short haul flights since covid.

Would heartily disagree with the OP since rich people will weasel around it like they do everything else. You'd wreck the economies of the countries you profess to care about in the process. Carbon taxes are a much more sensible measure IMO. It seems senseless to still have business flights when Zoom exists as well.

HerrKuehn · 25-07-2023 7:59am

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It is also worth noting that a large dog can produce around 2.5 tons of CO2 per year, about the same as a long haul flight. Another way of reducing emissions could be to reduce the number of dogs people keep as pets.

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2023 7:59am

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You can think all you like. Indeed you probably don't think enough at times. Are you not active on the F1 forum? Will you ban them travelling the world just to burn fuel going around in circles?

I haven't been abroad this year yet but sometimes go twice a year. Some years not at all. Can I save up my unused journeys under your masterplan?

HerrKuehn · 25-07-2023 8:02am

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I didn't fly, the question was: "How many times a year do you go abroad be it for holidays or business?"

Oscar_Madison · 25-07-2023 8:39am

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Completely unworkable and if they did increase the price of flights to astronomical levels, it would collapse the airline industry but millionaires and billionaires would still get off this island for their sun and sangria.

Like many things relating to climate deterioration it’s going to be done to personal choice and also what a person can afford to do themselves. Most people in Ireland cannot afford a new car, no less an over inflated electric car.

For many people, holidays are one of the few ways of reducing the stresses and strains of modern life- not everyone lives in the sunny south east by the beach, so naturally enough, people have a desire to explore other parts of the world. From personal experience, the cost of a decent 2 week holiday in Ireland is beyond madness - the cost of short stay house rentals are pathetically high- many hotels have deteriorated in terms of standards and service and those worth going to cost a fortune- and that’s before taking into account eating out- you get much bigger bang for your buck going to Europe and beyond and of course, mostly guaranteed sunshine for summer holidays.

I don’t like long haul flights so stick mainly to Europe - I’ve holidayed in Ireland for various reasons since 2018 so was glad to get off the island this year and intend taking more short city breaks throughout 2023 and beyond.

There’s a hell of a lot more to managing climate change than reducing air travel and even if we were to tackle air travel, your idea is unworkable.

DownByTheGarden · 25-07-2023 8:47am

I dont know about you OP but I live on a tiniy Island with sh!t weather. Im totally environmentally conscious in every way. In fact so much so that I bet my carbon footprint is a fraction of yours, including any flights I take.

But I have a question back for you OP. Tell me about your life and i'll explain your carbon footprint to you and how you can reduce it to what mine is.

magicbastarder · 25-07-2023 9:08am

they could start by applying the same tax and excise to jet fuel as they do to other fuels. the idea of being able to fly to malaga for 20 quid is nuts.

thebourke · 25-07-2023 9:19am

4 times this year...

1 long haul flight to Australia to see my sister and some friends.

The other 3 flights were all within Europe.

I know, we all need to cut back on flights...

Furze99 · 25-07-2023 9:23am

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Yeah, I'd agree with you. Myself, haven't been out of the country five years and then once that year. Why would you, when this country has everything you'd need? To visit relatives, but that'd be about it.

Things are badly wrong when train or bus tickets in Ireland cost more than a gas guzzling tin box flying across the oceans.

Oscar_Madison · 25-07-2023 9:26am

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Would you mind listing out what this country has that would fulfil the requirement of “everything you’d need” ?

Sorry but I don’t see it myself but will happily jump on the Ireland has everything bandwagon with you if you can open my eyes a little.

25-07-2023 9:30am

My wife and I inherited a holiday home down West and we both can work remotely so that’s where we spend the majority of our summers. Will spend the odd weekend/overnight in our house in Dublin.

Do one long-haul flight per year - Australia last year, Chile later this year, Japan on the cards for next year.

Then the odd city break every so often. So less than what we used to tbh.

DoctorEdgeWild · 25-07-2023 9:34am

14 flights so far this year, at Dublin airport right now waiting on a delayed flight ironically enough.

I feel as though the 'shouty' people will slowly get their way and flight prices will rise so I'm enjoying it while I can.

Allinall · 25-07-2023 9:35am

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Do you only ever do things you need to do, or do you sometimes do things you like to do?

Baba Yaga · 25-07-2023 9:49am

as often as i can...3 times so far this year and 8 times last year,all to europe 🛫

elperello · 25-07-2023 9:50am

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Interesting suggestions but a hard sell.

As an island country with a large emigrant community scattered across the globe it's a very real issue for many.

Our tourism and export businesses depend on connectivity.

The matter of individual emissions will be dealt with eventually in the meantime there is no need for us to impose unilateral measures.

I see little need for anyone here to beat themselves up over a holiday trip.

ZookeeperDub · 25-07-2023 10:00am

I think the question is wrong. Business is business. Do I like to fly for business? normally no because it means a lot of hassle and it's never to see the joys of a European or US city. It's a fly in, work like a dog and fly out. It is part of how the World works and has to be done. Would I prefer to not travel for work? yes but then im older. When I was in my 20's going abroad for work seemed exciting.

Holidays I think is the issue you have. I would agree but not from the flights point of view. I think we should try and holiday in Ireland more to keep money in Ireland.

I don't see why we need to make overseas travel more expensive. You are then just cutting out a lot of the population. Not sure why everyone thinks the automatic answer to everything is making it really expensive so then everyone suffers and the airplane companies just make millions more.

In terms of myself for holidays we haven't gone this year. This was down to a combination of things. Next year we are planning a holiday. Normally once a year for holidays, maybe twice if we want to do something special for kids (Disney or Santa)

HalloweenJack · 25-07-2023 10:00am

This year, I've flown twice to the UK (I live in Spain, btw) and heading to Iceland in August. Probably squeeze in another city break in autumn and likely to fly home for Xmas/New Year's as my brother and his family will be back for the first time since 2019.

Frankly, its up to governments to enforce laws to restrict air travel if its such a problem. Didn't they ban short-haul flights within mainland France when there's an alternative by train? I think internal flights (within reason) should be banned. As an island, Ireland shouldn't face the same restrictions as other countries, imo.

So many of these global summits/G7 get togethers could be done by Zoom, as happened during Covid. Seeing thousands of people descend on a city from around the globe for a climate summit is infuriating and surely defeats the purpose.

Also, motorsports should be on the chopping board first and golf not too far behind. Professional sports, in fact, have a lot to answer for. Manchester United flew to Leicester not too long ago while Real Madrid flew to Zaragoza. Its taking the piss.

More focus should be placed on private jets: if you can afford a private jet, you can afford to pay a carbon tax on its use.

TedBundysDriver · 25-07-2023 10:18am

Just back from our first family summer holiday since 2018 last week. Go on the ferry to Europe on the motorbike every year will be down in Bilbao in a few weeks over the picos, pyrennes, alps back up through the black forest up onto cherbourg. Think i'd lose my mind if i only could holiday in Ireland.

Going to get as much travel as i can in for the next 10 years before the Greens ruin it all.

JohnCleary · 25-07-2023 10:19am

We spend approx. 8-9 weeks a year abroad, including a 5 week stint in SE Asia in Dec / Jan to get away from the miserable weather here.

All holiday, although I do get stung on the phone / email every so often... but nothing that can't be dealt with while sipping on a beer at the beach.

We don't do any domestic holidaying in Ireland. Coupled with the fact that prices are ridiculous and we have a yacht which we spend almost every weekend on from April - September inclusive, there's no point.

2023 so far hasn't been too exiting... had 6 nights in Prague, going to Croatia for 2 weeks in October but then the big trip, flying to Thailand (cheapest place to fly into by a long mile) for 5 weeks in December. Christmas dinner on the beach has become quite the novelty for us.

JohnCleary · 25-07-2023 10:25am

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Can you link me to 20 quid flights to Malaga (so, 40 quid return). Those days are gone (but happy to be corrected).. Find them for me and i'l book them right now.

AMKC · 25-07-2023 10:27am

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No problem. I do not drive. I do not travel. I have not used a plane or a ship in over 13 years :) .

I do not buy anything that I do not need.

I reduce, Reuse and recycle as much as possible.

DoctorEdgeWild · 25-07-2023 10:30am

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There's a couple of 30 quid ones in August of you're looking to go then. End of the month, one way. At DUB right now waiting on my 19 quid flight to Birmingham (delayed). Loads of cool cheap options still it there. I did Vilnius last month for £30 something.

HerrKuehn · 25-07-2023 10:31am

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I got €30 each way, so €60 return to Italy for October with Ryanair. I booked it quite a bit in advance though.

Furze99 · 25-07-2023 10:31am

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Well what are you looking for? Leaving aside that the human condition is much the same the world over, you should look into Paddy Kavanagh's line about the undying difference in the corner of a field.

Furze99 · 25-07-2023 10:32am

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A true Green! Not the ones going now, that run the Green Party anyway.

Glaceon · 25-07-2023 10:33am

My wife is American so I go over there usually once a year.

AMKC · 25-07-2023 10:38am

Seriously some people on here should be ashamed of themselves. 6 to 8 flights a year disgraceful. Yes I hope the greens get there way and I hope there is eventually a limit put on the amount of flights you can take in a year. You can go as long as you like. You can go to Europe and travel all around it by land if you want but 1 or 2 return flights at the most should be the limit.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120893265#Comment_120893265

Disgracefull unless you are really a doctor and saving lives in them countries or training people otherwise is it any wonder the World is fu-cked.