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Iconic Cars

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,988 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I think it will be iconic because (imo) it will be the poster car of when combustion was truly starting to be replaced*, and it currently has a look that pays homage to both the past and the future (pun intended) yet will retain a classic look in the future to be remembered. It'll be the point where, if hydrogen takes off (and I honestly believe it should), this is the car that will wake up the masses to it, not the fugly Mirai or the SPlainUV Nexo, and won't be the hypercar Hyperion either, because I think people are starting to prefer the potentially attainable cars over the unattainable dreams again. While not everyones cup of tea, I believe there's enough in there to tick the boxes of car people in general, so will have the legend of the likes of the GT-R et al, amazing cars that nearly anyone could have, but few did.

    * I really am taking liberty here with the ICE replacement, but I do think the 74 will popularise the idea at the very least, and maybe give the hydrogen market the push it needs. It's expected that hydrogen will be cheaper to produce than petrol/diesel by 2025 and the more popular it gets, the cheaper it'll become in general. Asia investing heavily is a good sign. I know it has it's own issues to overcome, production efficiency and infrastructure, but I think it's a better future than trying to recycle/dispose of EV batteries. Having both will be the near future ~20years imo. The 74 will be a poster car for it. Deliberately styled no doubt.

    God, that was way more fanboy and longer than I intended. I don't care that much... just word farted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I like the latest land rover defender 110.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Now you know where the term wing mirror came from! Funny i remember only the fancier cars had one each side, mostly there was only one on the driver's.

    The inspiration for my username..




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,021 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Hyundai Velostar could have been one but instead I think it will be remembered for being odd. I really think Hyundai and Kia missed a trick with it. They could have done it as a Hyundai with five doors and a Kia with 3 doors door so there would only be 1 door each side of the Kia version and the Hyundai would have had 2 doors each side but still look sporty if you get me.

    So Kia would have it as a 3 door and Hyunddo as a 5 door.

    Big opportunity missed by them.

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    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    Always loved the shape of the Corrado.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    In 1998, when this car came out, it changed everything.

    You could have a really nice looking car for "Normal Money"




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,838 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Probably the most iconic car in Ireland




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,448 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    The Range Rover. Invented a new niche others have copied since.



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg



    205 T16



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭standardg60




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    True. Wonderful car but other manufacturers didn't really follow, unfortunately.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,739 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Jesus, those alloys are vile. Ruin the whole look of the car.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,448 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Were they not fairly standard on the turbo?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Citroën pre PSA mad some interesting cars.

    Traction Advant



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,021 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    A truly dreadful car for everything bar reliability and build quality. Nothing Iconic about it except its reliability and build I suppose.

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    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,739 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In the real world, reliability and build quality are pretty important.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,838 ✭✭✭PsychoPete




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The car I learned to drive in. Fond memories. 🙂 In my humble that was a truly fantastic design and marketing niche too and had a very long production run with a few mostly cosmetic changes throughout. The bodyshell lasted a lot longer than the first Mustang body that it was a European rip off of. A "sporty" couple you could actually fit four adults into and had a decent boot, with a hatchback after the series 1 and could be fixed with a hammer and gaffa tape. Agricultural as feck under the skin, but still... Again in my humble if that had an Alfa Romeo badge and they only made a few thousand of them their values would be many multiples of what they are.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    An E eh? Dead fancy you were altogether. 👍️😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Look fantastic and were very successful in motorsport. They look lovely on the inside too. Until you drive one. The driving position is appalling, unless you're some lab escaped human mutant. The dials look great only they're kinda upside down and wobble like a bugger. They're also about as reliable as a baby's arse. Sooner or later it will shít itself and when it does working on them is a curse. Very chuckable though and makes you look like a better driver than you are. Real mile eaters. Until it shíts itself...

    Cars like the Model T and the Beetle are icons. Citroen has had her fair share; the 1930's Traction Avant, the first mass market car with independent suspension all around, front wheel drive, monocoque chassis, even got a hatchback later on. The 2C another icon that was in production forever. And the Citroen DS. A space age car that still looks like the bloody Future(c) today.

    Lotto win? Some of my choices would be:

    Citroen DS. Obvs.

    Though I might feck a leccy motor into it. For the greenness. And the engines were the least innovative part.

    Renault 5 Turbo. Series 1 with the aluminium doors and roof and the wackiest interior ever. A car that will try to kill you. You hear guys say things like "my car went out of control". No sunshine, you did. However, park one of these up for the night and you're likely to wake up to find it upside down in your neighbour's hedge, a lit gauloises hanging out of it's radiator grill and your neighbour's wife looking disheveled and more satisfied than usual. Homologation specials are always a good bet. The companies cared not a jot for costs as a general rule.

    Honda NSX series 2. Insane in the membrane. A stripped down racing snake for the road(barely). The base NSX being the car that proved you could build a thing like this, that was easy to live with, cheap to service and didn't fall apart like a clown car every 5000 miles, unlike the Italians at the time...

    And sure I may as well throw a Fiat into the mix... Though one of the brand new ones made by that GTO crowd in the UK.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Alfa SZ


    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Always remember a quote I read about the Capri many moons ago, it wasn't steered, it was aimed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,430 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,433 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,448 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,430 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Yeah,much better.

    You're going to tell me they're the same no doubt?



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,739 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ah yes there was an early ad for the Capri when the wife in the passenger seat disappears and is replaced by several 'dolly birds' 😮 can't find it on Youtube but it was definitely there before.

    IIRC the Ford design brief was to produce a car that cost no more than £50 more than the Cortina it was based on - but they sold it at a bigger premium than that of course. About as sporty as a wet paper bag unless you bought the large engine options which were rare enough in the UK and all but unknown here due to punitive taxation. Style over substance. Even the Sierra had a totally outdated agricultural chassis under the modernist bodywork.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,739 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Whereas the New Avengers used BL and had breakdowns all the time!

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,739 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    @Wibbs I drag raced an NSX once, I was winning until 120MPH!

    A Honda CBR600F3 with a tent on the back, didn't help the aeros 😉

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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