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Are the English royal family the greatest scam ever played?

  • 01-05-2023 11:04am
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    Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭


    They have convinced an entire nation that they are somehow a greater set of beings than the lowly servants that serve them.

    Their "subjects" bow and courtesy before them, they award themselves a lifestyle unimaginable to the common folk.

    They take a "salary" and benefits that are astonishing, all to the cost of the working people, and yet, the whole population are preparing to celebrate the fact that due to blood lineage, and nothing more, they now have a new lord and master.

    The Windsors must be pissing themselves each day thinking that they are actually getting away with this gig...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭sniperman


    agreed 1000%



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,946 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Could say the same about monarchies generally speaking, to be fair. Although the sheer scale of the British one would push me to agree with you.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    You need to get the protocol right, when your time comes to meet HRH. Men bow and women curtsy (not the same word as courtesy).



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,946 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,946 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    You call me by my proper title, you little bollix!

    Oh wait... you did..

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,731 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Same with Royal families everywhere, for thousands of years they used to run the place until we got governments..

    Now they just mainly just born into a duty of performing ceremonies and functions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,521 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭aah yes


    If King Chaz III came round here acting the bollix all big eared and hoity toity wanting me to wave or bow, I'd be like "here Chaz, no, you might be robbin' them eejits blind across the water, no brains and happy without them, but coming' over here shouting the odds, I say no Chaz, get back on yer golden carriage and feck right off, you and that Camilla, go on, git aaahht of it, on yer bike".



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They’re a living tourist attraction



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  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭aah yes


    They need turfing out of their palaces and castles and get the National Trust to take it all over, Feckin national disgrace the lot of them, it is shite from the dark ages ffs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Get rid of the National Trust, and share out their properties among the people. Far too Royalist to be trusted.

    "The former Prince of Wales was our President from 2003 until the death of Her Majesty the Queen and his ascension to the throne.

    His Majesty's role at the Trust

    He was Patron of the Trust's Centenary in 1995 and subsequently agreed to be President, succeeding Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother.

    In this capacity, the former Prince of Wales took a personal interest in all aspects of our work. He hosted fundraising events, met with volunteers and visited properties on a regular basis."



  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭moceri


    They are merely actors who are in character 24/7.  


    All the world’s a stage,

    And all the men and women merely players;

    They have their exits and their entrances;



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Whilst it is unpopular to gainsay against the populus crowd of identical individualists that comprise current civic discourse, I'd state that having a family being the core of the nation promotes civil harmony and avoids the type of unrestrained Jacobinism that characterised the various republican revolutions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    The whole population, really??? Incorrect. Yes there are a majority of boot licking simps at present but thankfully that majority is becoming less and less as time progresses and there is a distinct movement to do away with the inbred anti-democratic nonsense



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It tends to come and go, rather than being a continual decline in support. Back when they cut the other Charles' head off, they were a bit unpopular. And when Diana died. But taking the long view, they are survivors.



  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Eclectic Econometrics


    There are several things at play here, not just one guy or a family that have convinced everyone else they are superior beings.

    There is a cohort of land owners, media owners, filtering down to your Nicholas Witchell types on 250k a year, that know this is all BS but also realise that this institution is at the top of a system with its hand on the scale working in their favour. There can never be true equality with a royal family, this suits those paying 40k a year to send their offspring to Harrow or Charterhouse. A good number of those who are successful and influential that are not born into it are brought in via honours, "Sir Keir". The system maintains itself pretty impressively.

    Then there is the everyman on the street desperate for a sense of nationalism, who has to hark back to his great grandfather fighting in WWII in order to scratch this itch. To anyone with any sense of self worth the queen's funeralpalooza was Pyongyang levels of crazy but to a lot of the population of the UK it was finally a way to be British. The left wing or liberal equivalent is British people that say the 2012 Olympics was the last time the country felt great etc. It is this same wanting to belong they're tapping into.

    People underestimate how powerful repetition is. There is a reason the narrative is these people are a tourist attraction anachronism. Costs are always put into the perspective of per UK resident, so a funeral only cost £1 per person, a coronation £1.50, "they bring in X in tourism" etc. They are made out to be benign but they're a malignancy that costs the country far more than can be measured per capita.

    IMH, republican to my soul, O.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    As somebody descended from a royal family, OP , you need to back in line , ya little bollix.

    When I say a royal family , I mean Burger King , I was burger flipper back in the day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,415 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I have been watching with a little bit of a smirk tbh. As the Penny drops for a lot of Brits that they are expected to pledge fealty to a man in a fancy hat, who is better than them and sovereign of their nation by dint of birth.

    One thing I am fairly sure will be a result of the fancy dress parade? Is a growing and ever louder Republican movement in the UK. Asking the oath of allegiance naysayers what else they have in common with Sinn Fein can be a great way to pass a bit of time on twitter 😉😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    I kid you not...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    They’re a tourist attraction. A hobby no more than watching/following Coronation St or Manchester United. Millions come from all over the world to see them and all the stuff that goes with it.

    It’s part of their national identity.

    Next weekend will be a bit of a distraction, a bit of bunting up and a party.

    Throwing them out would be of no material benefit. Ask president macron today.

    Doesn’t affect us in any way shape or form beyond a bit of eye rolling about how many Irish women in particular of a certain age are obsessed with the whole circus.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,406 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I'd love to have a man to squeeze my toothpaste.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,414 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    No idea why you're getting worked up over Charles and their likes..who the hell cares.

    The church/Vatican have done far more damage to and abused the poorest of society across the globe and are sitting pretty on their billions of dollars.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,406 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Should probably lose the bowing and curtsey, it's a bit 17th century.

    Wouldn't fancy the job though,bit of an open prison for them. No wonder Harry got out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I think the Nigerian princes have the scam market covered, so the Brits had to come up with a deeper game.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    That is the peanuts bit though.... think about this:

    • They are supposed to be a constitutional monarchy in a country with no written constitution! The constitution is whatever the government of the days says it is and this is explained away to the plebs as a feature - it's very flexible!
    • There is no constitutional court - a citizen can't take the government to court to force them to conform to non existent constitution
    • The purpose of an upper house is to act as a break on parliament and to represent various interests of the state, such as we have in Ireland where senators are elected by to the various panels - industry, farming, education etc.... in the UK they have an unelected upper house of individuals representing themselves and a PM who can always bully or pack the house to get his way
    • Then we have the King's Prerogative which enables the PM to subvert parliament when it suits him
    • As a result of disclosures under the FOI, we know for a fact that both the Queen and the new King have interfered with the operation of parliament to their advantage
    • And of course you have the Magna Carta which the plebs quote on a regular basis, not appreciating that it was an agreement between a king and his nobles and in any case the last provisions of it were cancelled some time in the early 1800s
    • And then you have this bunch of German immigrants (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) living under an assumed name and claiming all kinds of benefits and even managing to extend those claims to many other nations.




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,775 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It well within the gift of the British people to get rid of the Monarchy and organise a fully parliamentary republic if they wanted.

    Theres clearly no major appetite among them to do that, so if they are satisfied to keep throwing money into the monarchy pit, then more fool them.

    And to be fair, the Monarchy in Britain is an emergent system from the history of local leaders before the 8th Century, it didn't just manifest one day as a finished article.

    Arguably, if the Anglo-Normans hadn't invaded Ireland this day 854 years ago, we'd probably have a native Monarchy here too, with one of the great Gaelic families being on the throne.

    So I guess we have the Brits to thank that much for, showing us how not to do things!



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...couldnt imgaine so, id imagine they generally feel very entitled, as they were all born into the situation, but we could very well be watching the final installment, as wealth disparities are now growing rapidly in the country......



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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,698 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    They (Henry VIII) did muscle in on the religious action... but a greater scam than the Catholic Church and eg selling indulgences?

    Doubtful.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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