2024 Irish Gigs (Confirmed & Rumoured Events)

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831606#Comment_122831606

Nope. That's just your opinion based on zero presented facts. Spoofing as usual.

I've been to plenty of acts at the 3Arena that basically just had a stack of amps, minimal staging, and a few lights that would have been used in a smaller venue too (and probably were at other countries abroad where they played in smaller venues).
The War On Drugs being a prime example. Played the 3Arena (reduced capacity) with little by way of "production". Played Birmingham O2 Academy (capacity 3k) , O2 Arena London (capacity 20k) and Edinburgh O2 Academy (capacity 3k) either side of the 3Arena. Same minimal stage production at all those gigs. Venue size is irrelevant.

No-one was complaining after the 3Arena show that there wasn't a big production spectacle and lots of props:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQHSPqYsVTc

"arena tour require massive budgets/productions" - Demonstrably false.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831718#Comment_122831718

wow one example out of hundreds of 3 arena shows in the last decade and even then a wrong example as that show had a ton of trucks with lights etc brought in. Lighting arrays and the lights teams are a very expensive element of any arena production, the difference between what’s required in a theatre with a house system to piggy back onto versus an arena with little to no house lighting rigs.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831647#Comment_122831647

ultimately the decision when a band jumps to arenas is a mix of half a dozen factors.
It depends on the budget/guarantee fee that the bands want from an arena show and their historic of ticket sales in that city.
If a guarantee from arena show is low enough, the ticket price needed to generate a profit and history of sales all line up then they will jump.

Look at john bishop in 3 arena. He is only charging €25 for a fully seated show, which will only generate about €175k after Vat.
his agent gets his 15% commission, the promoter takes their cut, venue rental costs etc. He would probably make more from a private function fee than selling out 3 arena on that price.

Homesick Alien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831045#Comment_122831045

One of Crosbie's other plans was to a build a venue in Grand Canal Dock where the old dry docks are. So across the river from the 3arena. Not sure if anything will come if though.

tommythecat

But again 3-5k is not an arena.

Zardoz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831606#Comment_122831606

The reality is for arena shows the spectacle is a major element of the tour commercial and creative success. The music in the show itself becomes less key.

When an act is finally stepping up to arenas they are required by the audience to have a compelling production.

Of course not every act needs elaborate arena show but ones that can get away without one are few and far between.

I see you are still trying to peddle this nonsense, its becoming tedious now.

By an elaborate show you mean dancing and miming to lip syncing, you have already stated that repeatedly.

The thing is oasis vocals and instruments will be fine tuned and modified by the sound engineers same as what happens at a Taylor Swift or dua lipa show. That’s the good of sound engineers these days,it’s to live adjust and amend the vocals with backing tracks/auto tune and vocal Fx

You even tried to say The Edge having Dallas Schoo helping out with guitars was worse than artists singing over a backing track.

sure u2 had extra band members hiding backstage like Terry lawless for keys/loops and Dallas schoo who controls the guitar Fx for the edge. That’s more of a fraud that Taylor signing over her own vocals.

Most people go to a show for the music, to see an artist or band sing live, the visuals are secondary.

Most acts have a good videoscreen and lights now, carbon fibre staging and video displays are alot more advanced and economical to transport and buy nowadays.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831766#Comment_122831766

To claim that the artists playing arenas without huge productions are 'few and far between' is absurd. I don't go to the venue much but the only act I've seen make any effort there is David Byrne. Next to none from Radiohead, Tears For Fears, Steely Dan, John Fogerty and others. There'll be sod all from Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Khruangbin, Fontaines, Sam Fender, Pogues, Snow Patrol, Pantera, Limp Bizkit, James Blunt, Paul Heaton and others on the way in the next few months. Similarly little from Interpol, Kasabian, The Corrs, Lizzy McAlpine, Crowded House, The Wolfe Tones and others who've played recently.

Much more accurate to say that those with big productions are few and far between, the polar opposite of your claim. These major stage designs are possibly those artists more keen to distract from their lip-synching, little musicianship and lack of tunes. Who notices a bad track when there's exploding confetti and dozens of gyrating gym bunnies? Or am I speaking for myself?

Less of the hyperbole and outlandish random claims please. It ain't a forum where you get away with much bullsh1t as we've all found out on different occasions.

colmufc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831131#Comment_122831131

I thought that for st.vincent and was there for 7 but pit passes were gone, id expect the idles crowd to be even more feverish

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831945#Comment_122831945

Yep, I think you're right, my last instance was Ride where I strolled in circa 7.30. Less of a clamour. I don't mind being in the Olympia early anyway, love the bars there and often a decent support act. This time it's Chalk from Belfast whoo I think are excellent. I'd like them to broaden their sound with an extra guitar but they're very very impressive. Get in early.

Wrongway1985

Story with this SD entertainment crowd?

Was looking into Cherie Currie in Limerick it's still listed on SD but not on Dolans. Following the link through to TM says cancelled and on the date another act is playing. Double booked?

Mucker46

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831945#Comment_122831945

I was the same. Defo need to be there earlier. Reckon pit will be a full on mosh pit so reckon lots there early to be part of it

Mucker46

Chalk are brilliant live

mgkelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122832172#Comment_122832172

Saw them at ATN. Mad lads!

jams100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831910#Comment_122831910

I actually think his point stands.

You generally need a much bigger production in the 3Arena vs the Olympia etc. (Natural enough given the stage is probably at least twice the size).

Keane, had flip all production earlier this year (Very bare bones lights and no screens) and it really took away from the show in my opinion, also, you are wrong on Kasabian, there were significant backdrop lights, the sort of thing that wouldn't fit into the Olympia, which is probably part of the reason they had to play 3Arena. Other previous 3Arena gigs over the past year ive attended like Muse, Killers, Maneskin, Jonas Brothers all had very significant productions.

Is a big production needed? Not always (Wolfe Tones being case and point), but, generally I expect a much bigger and better production in the 3Arena vs Olympia, Vicar Street etc. (And that's usually shown in the ticket price these days).

Goldengirl

Think the point is that arena sized venues demand more light shows and bells and whistles to fill it out that a smaller sized venue would not . The atmosphere of a full crowd in a smaller venue cannot be beaten . 3 arena is soulless and echoey when half full with bits curtained off .

New Order did play there but while a good gig the atmosphere of the gig in Trinity beat it hands down .

We badly need an indoor venue in Dublin that can cater for that mid size crowd .

Btw Peter Hook and The Light Friday night in the Olympia ..just good songs and music!

hold my beer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122832929#Comment_122832929

Looking forward to Peter Hook

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122832437#Comment_122832437

We're not comparing the 3Arena to the Olympia/Vicar St but to a prospective 5k venue in Dublin.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122831541#Comment_122831541

And wouldnt the venue/band/management/promoter just charge a premium price anyway to cover their costs for a 5000 seater venue, just like they do now for bigger arena/outdoor shows ?

Dynamic pricing blah blah blah ….

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122832929#Comment_122832929

A Manchester musician pal who knows a couple of members in Hook's band has told me that they don't enjoy playing the New Order stuff but adore doing the JD stuff. Great reports on the gigs and his voice has hugely improved after some intense voice-coaching. Never seen them and going to the Black Box on Saturday so feedback on the gig please and have a great one.

T.V Eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833551#Comment_122833551

I've seen them before. With all respect to New Order I think The Light are a better live band and I left the gig a few years ago wondering why Hooky didn't sing on more New Order tunes (Dreams Never End is the only one that comes to mind) so if his voice has improved since I seen them it should be a good gig.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833606#Comment_122833606

When in the band his voice was a mess so they either stopped him or he didn't volunteer. The voice-coaching was circa 6/7 years. In the early days of the Light it was a mess and someone or other pushed him to sort it out. Apparently very successfully and he sounds good from the live footage I've seen.

If better than NO live then that's very good indeed. I've seen them be messy but Brixton two decades ago, EP sets and Trinity 2019 were all excellent. Particularly the last, as good as I've ever seen them.

Homesick Alien

Anyone going to Nick Cave tonight is in for an absolute treat. But you probably knew that already.

Thundercats Ho

Anyone looking for tickets to the sold out Fionn Regan gig in Cleeres Kilkenny tomorrow night (14.11). There's 2 just gone up on their (Cleeres) site. I got caught for work tomorrow night, so am offloading them.

T.V Eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833704#Comment_122833704

New Order at Trinity was a nice gig. I remember they played a lot of Joy Division tunes too.

Going to Hooky's Dublin gig on Friday myself.

8pm start: New Order Substance in full then the Joy Division compilation of the same name, which for me, was the first thing I owned by either band so should be an enjoyable night and good value at 30 songs.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833551#Comment_122833551

Thanks Seathrún.

Yes I am particularly looking forward to the JD stuff.

I love New Order and would reckon his dislike of their stuff is because of continuing bad feelings between them all .

I hope it doesn't affect it on the night because it is 50% of the show !

Looking forward to it

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122833704#Comment_122833704

Will report back 😁.

Thought Bernards voice was a bit dodgy on some songs at the last gig but thought " 3 arena echoeyness " ?

Loved the Trinity gig 22, sorry 2019, so relaxed .

Unrealistic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836028#Comment_122836028

We went to Limerick to see him two years ago and the programme for the night was a short New Order set followed by the two Joy Division studio albums in full, and an encore of Joy Division non-album tracks (gotta have some logical basis for slotting in Love Will Tear Us Apart 😉).

Looking at the setlists for that tour at the time he was playing a completely different 6-7 song New Order set each night and pulled from a list of 20 or so songs. He didn't seem unhappy performing them that night so I hope it will be the same this weekend. Looking forward to Saturday night in Galway.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836117#Comment_122836117

First time seeing him ...with the Light .Had to persuade my very loyal New Order buddy that it would be worth it but if he plays 15 out of JD songs I will be happy .

If he only plays 6 / 7 NO I am in big trouble !

But I see from recent setlists it's 50 / 50 and finishing with Love will tear us apart ..

Enjoy Galway .

Irishder

Going to Vampire Weekend in a couple of weeks. Anyone seen them lately, dont really know what to expect

Mucker46

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836269#Comment_122836269

Also going. Saw them in trinity 2019 were really enjoyable

Basq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836269#Comment_122836269

https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/vampire-weekend-33d6bc79.html

Have a look at last few gigs here..

Irishder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836313#Comment_122836313

Thanks, they seem to do a heap of covers

Basq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836330#Comment_122836330

Looks to be an encore of covers which looks like good fun.

Irishder

yeah could be great

loyatemu

Could one of the RDS halls be adapted into a ~5k venue? There used to be a lot of indoor gigs there. Wasn't there some massive clubbing event there earlier this year?

Furious-Red

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836531#Comment_122836531

I always thought if they did some work on simmonscourt you'd have at least a 5k venue, not too far from the city centre. Went to paramore and razorlight back in 07/08/09????

tommythecat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836689#Comment_122836689

Was at Interpol in the main hall in 2007.

Mucker46

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836689#Comment_122836689

Saw Interpol there in 2007 and was at them the other night. How time flies but good music never dies

LowOdour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836269#Comment_122836269

Saw them at Trinity - excellent live but was probably worst concert experience I've ever had. Putrid crowd at it. It put me off picking up tickets for upcoming show but still very tempted to pick up a resale

Mucker46

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836886#Comment_122836886

Agree crowd was poor except for two or three songs but thought they were very good

mgkelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836889#Comment_122836889

I would 100% agree. I actually thought they were very good indeed. Enjoyed the gig.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122835537#Comment_122835537

Been checking the setlists, consistently 30 tracks, 15 by each band. Alas no Decades nor New Dawn Fades but pretty much everything else you'd want to hear is there. Enjoy.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122836028#Comment_122836028

Apologies, I mightn't have communicated it properly. I don't know Hook's feelings on playing the NO stuff, I was talking about his band. After a gig last year they told my pal that they didn't enjoy it but knew it was expected of them and were fully aware that they wouldn't be selling the tickets without the NO material. Enjoy the gig.

Jizique

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122832953#Comment_122832953

I have a ticket for Peter Hook but am in hospital so if anyone wants one, please let me know - i am too late to put it back onto the TM site

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122839461#Comment_122839461

Hope you get sorted and get well soon J

LowOdour

Was anyone at Hook last night? Looking at set list, seems like show would be quite long with numbersl of songs covered.

I'm in severe need of a gig fix and trying to see what I can attend before Xmas. Limited to Galway and Castlebar options, so maybe do Hooky tonight

hynesie08

https://twitter.com/mcd_productions/status/1857362972366000604?t=TmJnnes4JXF293ZZdn-izA&s=19

Considering the timeframe and circumstances, that's a fairly solid replacement.

Furious-Red

Gama Bomb announced as main support for Alien Ant Farm

Granite Head

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122841251#Comment_122841251

I hope you have your dates wrong - playing the Olympia tonight.

LowOdour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122841869#Comment_122841869

Doh! Thanks, we'll that's out the window so!