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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Entitlement means the person has a right to something, there is no right to a pay increase, nor obligation on an employer to give one. No one has a right to have a pay review clause in their contract.

    So the poster was correct, there is no entitlement/right to a pay increase, though some have a clause in their contract which provides an obligation for the employer to carry out a pay review, that review may not be a guaranteed increase in pay. It seems obvious the op does not have such a clause, so there is no entitlement/right to a pay increase.

    Whether the op deserves or should get a pay increase is a different matter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Small family businesses are the worst to work for

    An Post have been increasing their prices very regularly but the OP will never see anything from that. Minimum wage workers have seen more raises over the last seven years than you OP

    Find a new job OP, the postmistress will always have a reason to say no to you. And when you leave she will cry “cannot get the staff”



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,322 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    If you have clause in a contract that grants something, you are entitled that thing by virtue of the fact it is in the contract. Entitlement doesn't only apply to a god-given right. If you have 6 weeks annual leave in your contact, you are entitled to 6 weeks leave. Often those items are outline in a section called...Entitlements.

    Serious mental gymnastics going on there to claim you are not entitled to supra-statutory leave in your contract.

    No one has a right to have a pay review clause in their contract.

    Did I claim any one had the "right to a clause". That phrase makes no sense btw, not sure if that's a typo or is using that backwards phrasing as your actual argument. The clause grants the entitlement, if a clause exists, an entitlement exists.

    And yes, a pay increase is not guaranteed to be granted or to be a certain size. But its pretty trivial to draft legal terms that allow for a degree of discretion from the employer. Not grant a rise 7 years in a row, citing discretion, would not be fair and reasonable.

    It seems obvious the op does not have such a clause, so there is no entitlement/right to a pay increase.

    OP has not shared any contract details, but I don't think anyone claimed they they were entitled to it. Just that it was shifty practise from their boss.

    I was calling out the claim that nobody is ever, under any circumstance, entitled to a pay increase. As that's simply incorrect, as is defending it.

    And contractual clauses are not the only way you have the right to a pay rise, just one example. The minimum wage increased a few months ago, thousand of people instantly entitled to a pay increase. "hurr...not an entitlement because nobody is entitled to have a job in the first place" lol



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