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Suitable EV for company rep

  • 02-03-2023 9:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4


    Hi, my work is going to full electric cars. I’m due a change. I do over 50,000km/year. I would like a fairly substantial comfortable car with a good range, budget €60000 approx. What models would you suggest I should look at?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,991 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Is the VW iD5 in the budget?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not relevant to your discussion, but would you charge it at home? Who'd pay for the electricity in this scenario?



  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭Bovakinn


    For that sort of money, I'd consider the Long Range Tesla Model 3 or Y depending on your needs/preference.



  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭e.r


    You ca get an app on your phone that tracks your domestic usage and then you put it in with your expenses.

    was thinking the same myself & a rep that comes into us showed us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    You don't mention any specific requirements on size, body style etc. Check out https://ev-database.org/ You can filter here based on availability, body style, range (real world!) etc.

    If you would normally go for a saloon then Tesla Model 3 Long Range would be my pick. Standard wheels and any colour except red would be under 55K. All-wheel drive and just under 500hp.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Buy your own if you can and claim back the miles. New BIK rules don’t suit vehicles with high OMV which most EV’s are. If you have to choose a €60K company EV, a long range Tesla is probably the best best but try one first as they’re an acquired taste depending on what you’re used to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Model3 long range, VW ID.3 Tour, ID.5, Kia EV6.


    a lot of the rest are suvs or crossovers or don’t have great range. The premium brand cars would be above 60 k.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    The wife got an Ev6 yesterday..im not a fan of the seats so far.. so I would drive a good distance in one first before choosing one. That said I'm driving volvo who seats are always fantastic so I don't know if its a fair comparison



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,991 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    In fairness, nothing worse than a crap seat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,027 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Model 3 long range./thread



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭innrain


    Our company went for MY RWD . OMSP of 52k Effective BIK 7.36%, this year 13.85% next year and 18.17% in 2025. Average 13.125% per year or 6825 notional pay. Looking at the next bracket of less polluting ICE cars (More than 59g/km up to and including 99g/km) BIK 26.25%, to achieve the same notional pay the OMSP of the car should be not more that 26k which puts you in a ? Hard to find a 26k car and <= 99 g/km CO2. Going to next bracket <=139g/km CO2 the equivalent OMSP drops even more (22.75K). the cheapest bare Fiesta/Bayon/C3 just about.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I'd look to your typical routes and see are they serviced by Tesla Superchargers, that would bring a Model Y RWD into play which has better egress versus the Model 3 and more room should you have company stock etc in the car



  • Registered Users Posts: 64,348 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    @Cobalt00 - try and get an EV that doesn't use cobalt in its battery



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭eagerv


    All the suggestions are good, but with your high mileage the Tesla Supercharging would more than likely make life a lot easier.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,449 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I don't think any car manufacturer can beat Volvo's seat comfort.

    That saying, OP would you consider Polestar by Volvo?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    I concur. By far the best seats for a high mileage driver.

    Polestar could be a good shout depending on waiting lists!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Volvo C40? Looks to be above the 60k though. https://www.volvocars.com/ie/cars/c40-electric/



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Cobalt00


    Thanks for all your opinions and suggestions. I’m not too keen on supporting Tesla, and by extension Musks view of world affairs. Polestar looks interesting. The VW id5 looks great. Not too concerned about bik as electrics are significantly discounted for bik so the loading is minimal compared to ice. Seats are most important factor, and poor support or sitting on the floor would be a deal breaker for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    Polestar have a space (showroom) in Sandyford. Worth going there and having a look. Volvo C40 (and XC40 electric) have the same underpinnings as the Polestar (or other way round) so also worth considering.

    Software-wise they'd be better than VW. They have Android Automotive so have google maps etc built in rather than running off your phone. Navigation with battery percentage on arrival is nice (similar to Tesla).



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    While you might feel that way about Musk, just bear in mind he doesnt build the cars nor does he care if you buy it or not. Perhaps, take it and all the others for a test drive and make an informed view based on the cars rather than on politics. Adittionally, if you are driving near to superchargers, you might be glad you went Tesla. Or not.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Maybe check the latest BIK rules, I’m pretty sure 2023 is the last year that EV’s have the BIK discount.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭innrain


    BIK zero is gone yes but the discount is there till 2026 albeit tapered each year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭fits


    It’s a perfectly valid view not to want to line his pockets further.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    I test drove the Volvo C40. While quick I found it small and cramped inside. Now I'm a big lad so it could have just not fitted me! Haha



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,137 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I don’t know if the ID.3 size appeals but it has a very spacious cabin. The Cupra Born is the same. You’d want the big battery versions.


    The Tour has massage seats and I find it good for the back which was previously suffering in a c class Mercedes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Cobalt00


    Thanks I think I’d better check the figures before making a move!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Of course it is. Nobody said otherwise.

    VW cheats are not where I want my money to go, emission scandals and connections to Hitler doesn’t sit too well for me personally.

    Nissan CEO was charged with fraud. Mercedes is stuck in class law suits for service scandals.

    Who do we give our money to?

    Best advice is to drive them all and see which one you like best.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Absolutely - anything else is just posturing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭Abel Magwitch


    Or just maybe respect OPs wishes. He does him. You do you

    He says he doesn’t like Musk and doesn’t want to line his pockets why then suggest he should try test driving his cars

    smh



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  • Registered Users Posts: 929 ✭✭✭sh81722


    A couple of reasons are that if you want to use the car in Ireland the Supercharger network is the only one that somewhat works. The current models from Tesla are also reliable cars with top notch efficiency, software and updates. With LR models you also get over 400 horses instead of half of that from the competition, in case you like nippy cars.

    Hope all this combined with the past sins of the competition answers why informed people would recommend a testdrive of a Tesla whether you like their CEO or not.



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