"Nobody cares about Covid anymore"

Xander10

What's Covid?

Goldengirl

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bloopy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120277410#Comment_120277410

I think it's any member of the crow family.

Mic 1972

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120272791#Comment_120272791

Not everyone wants to live in fear.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279194#Comment_120279194

The fearmongers are best ignored at this stage. Ironically it was my 80 year old father with a heart condition that gave me covid last month. It was just like a cold to him. He gave it to my mother aswell who has heart failure. She had a sore throat for a day.

Due to my work i know a lot of old people who got covid. They all recovered.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279194#Comment_120279194

Pre covid, taking precautions like flu vaccine or washing your hands to avoid food poisoning wasn't "living in fear".

Some people did think twice about spreading things to vulnerable relatives.

No more than wearing a seat belt means you're living in fear of a car accident.

Similarly basic precautions against covid aren't "living in fear".

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279307#Comment_120279307

Unless you have symptoms your post is irrelevant.

On a Sunday morning i tested negative and felt ok. I called to my partners house. I was there until the afternoon. I started to feel a little caught in the throat. I went home and did another test. A faint second line began to emerge. It was too late, she caught it from me that afternoon.

Unless you are advocating for vulnerable relatives to be locked up away from society precautions aren’t going to do much unless you have symptoms.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279380#Comment_120279380

Strawman nonsense. Where has anybody advocated such a thing?

You could test yourself before visiting regardless of symptoms.

Take what precautions you can.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279387#Comment_120279387

Did you read my post? I said i tested on that Sunday morning negative and felt totally fine. By the afternoon i tested positive and gave the virus to my partner. So how is taking precautions unless you are symptomatic going to help prevent spreading it?

Cluedo Monopoly

I think many people will stop using antigen test due to the costs of them too.

I have a few allergies. I'd be broke if I used an antigen test every time I got symptoms.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279410#Comment_120279410

Hold on a second.

I replied to this post and an entirely different scenario.

"Avoid your father permanently as you won't take a test ?"

Not everyone wants to live in fear.

BY that poster's definition, you are living in fear. So not sure why you are jumping on my post challenging it.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279421#Comment_120279421

Your posts are about taking precautions for the vulnerable. I was pointing out they are completely unreliable as i found out in my case.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279435#Comment_120279435

They missed your situation, that doesn't make them "completely unreliable".

You haven't even begun in terms of the level of evidence etc that would be needed to justify that statement.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279448#Comment_120279448

Nope, your 2020 methods are obsolete and taking precautions won’t work. Covid is too contagious and most old/ vulnerable vaccinated folk i know have had covid and survived and don’t care about the constant nonsense ( unless someone is sick) that’s posted on these forums.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279493#Comment_120279493

Once again, you provide zero evidence to support what you say.

"Most"?

Yeah what about the rest?

And then you talk about constant nonsense.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279523#Comment_120279523

I don’t need to post evidence . I deal with the public everyday day. Most as in about 99%. If you weren’t on the forum 24/7 and look out the window you might realise granparents aren’t handing out antigen tests at the door to their grandchildren.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279552#Comment_120279552

"I don’t need to post evidence . I deal with the public everyday day."

I wasn't aware "I deal with the public everyday day" was a get out clause to get away with macro statements without macro evidence.

And by not aware, I mean, you've just given yourself carte blanche to post unchallengeable statements.

Pointless engaging with someone who puts themself on that platform.

facehugger99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279307#Comment_120279307

Pity so many of the nursing profession didn't get flu vaccinations in pre-covid times.

Maybe they should have been living in fear a bit more.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279646#Comment_120279646

Maybe they should.

My main point is that a person with a loved one vulnerable to flu, who got vaccinated, was not living in fear.

Micky 32

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120279589#Comment_120279589

My real life experiences are from my work and there’s no way of proving it on a forum. That’s nice and convenient for you though. I know what i see everyday and it doesn’t relate to the BS the usual crowd post on this forum.

Micky 32

'If you haven't yet returned to doing the things that you love, I am encouraging you to do so now' - Breda Smyth CMO

“The Chief Medical Officer has urged older people to reconnect with other people exactly three years on from the first case of Covid-19 being confirmed in Ireland.”

There you go, perfectly fitting for this thread 😉👍

Chris_5339762

Saw someone walking down the road in one of those face shields the other day.

mcsean2163

I remember everyone laughed at the mass formation psychosis guy. I think very few are laughing now.

Hospitals got rid of masks last Wednesday. It was a triumph of fear and stupidity and had really bad outcomes for some. If anyone suggested this crap again 2km, masks etc..... ....

Goldengirl

Yes, everyone was laughing , and are still laughing . It was a makey uppey thang from a conspiracy nut job ..

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-psychology-idUSL1N2TN1RE

The only mass hypnosis that is visible now is that of those individuals who still believe in people like those 2 lads debunked in that clip .

And well done on the blamegame.." Bad outcomes for some".. Yes definitely but not what you're suggesting I would venture and certainly not the worst because of masks which is what this thread is about btw.

ceadaoin.

Well, there we have it. Officially over

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1654477139620638722

Allinall

Andrex share price has collapsed.

SortingYouOut

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120559209#Comment_120559209

Yet i'm still seeing the odd person walking around on their own outside with a surgical mask on. Has to be a mental illness there or they've just tied the nonsense to their personality over the last 3 years and can't bear to let go.

facehugger99

There'll be a lot of lads crying into their facemasks tonight.

Emblematic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120559260#Comment_120559260

Looking outside Ireland a lot of people still wearing masks in Tokyo in the open air, probably the majority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQNybjVJL0

Quite rare in Ireland. I do remember the day they made masks optional indoors, I think it was towards the start of last year. I remember being in Tescos and all the staff had stopped wearing theirs once they were no longer forced.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120559420#Comment_120559420

Mask wearing has long been a thing in Asian countries down to the level of air pollution in the cities.

Emblematic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120560293#Comment_120560293

True but if you look at similar videos from 2019 and before, hardly anyone wearing them. Now quite a number wearing them. A long term change.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120559260#Comment_120559260

Even at peak covid, pre vaccine, the experts on the radio were saying your chance of catching covid when outdoors was 1 in a million.

I do think those wearing masks outdoors now, when not in a shop or standing in a close group chatting etc, have been brainwashed a bit.

lumphammer2

First of all .... Covid 19 is still around .... Covid is still a pandemic .... yes it still is serious for some mild for most .... it still does kill .... Covid itself has not really changed .... but how it is treated by media and govts is very different ....

I remember the early days vividly .... February waiting for the first case ... March watching normality become replaced by restrictions .... total lockdowns and stay at home order on 27th March 2020 .... watching news and any glimmer of hope to these awful restrictions being eased dominated people's behaviour in April May and June .... watching all the contradictions on issues like masks and the hardline support of lockdowns/stay at home .... after a summer of relative freedom came from autumn until near the middle of 2021 more lockdowns and stay at home orders .... they seemed to go on forever and the last one lasted 5 months which was defo ott esp since the vaccine was there by then !!! .... indeed some form of restrictions remained common up until February 2022 ....

Then the narrative changed all of a sudden with hardly any explanation .... from February 2022 all was given was advice to wear a mask in certain settings .... it is obvious why the narrative changed .... first you had that stupid war in Ukraine and the cost of living crisis caused by it ... severe restrictions would not be possible even if Covid took hold again ... a bit of mask wearing would have to suffice .... you also had certain personalities resign their posts .... most early Covid era HSE and NPHET top officials moved to other roles ... NPHET was disbanded .... everyone knew decisions were poor and overzealous but no one was admitting it ....

So latter era Covid became akin to the 2009-2010 Swine flu pandemic .... something played down/something to live with .... the opposite to the overzealous approach during early Covid .... why?? Other news items took over .... the war .... just like in the Swine flu era it was the banking crisis and the recession that took precedence ....

It is clear the narrative changed .... one minute Covid 19 was a dangerous pandemic next minute it was something we had to live with .... who knows what would have panned out if that war had not happened?? ... but it was clear there was too dogmatic and draconian a response to Covid early on and for a long time no one was listening to anything other than policy that included total lockdowns and total stay at home orders .... let's hope we have learned something here and we don't have a repeat of over the top often unnecessary restrictions during the next pandemic .... we need to get the balance right .... somewhere in the middle .... where we do not close down our country and restrict everyone's movements but where we do protect the vulnerable and keep tabs on the virus ....

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120598009#Comment_120598009

It is still a pandemic but your narrative is wrong on several levels as it leaves out impact of vaccines and Omicron and improved treatments. Effectively the virus did change because of that in terms of what X cases meant for hospitals.

The combination of its infectiousness and severity was the reason ultimately countries dialled things up to lockdown in 2020 and 2021.

Your timeline for 2021 and lockdowns and rollout of vaccines similarly doesnt track. It took considerable time to get people vaccinated from when vaccines were technically available. Measures started to change to eg hospitality for vaccinated only.

And it is never clear if you are talking about just Ireland or globally which muddies the waters.

And the main measures were lifted before Putins illegal war in Ukraine happened, the only remaining ones of negligible economic impact.

Your timeline of events is strangely off or else you have misunderstanding of vaccination.

Cluedo Monopoly

The funny thing is that Covid is actually doing the rounds at the moment and nobody gives a fiddlers. I have heard of quite a few people getting it.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120621659#Comment_120621659

It's now one of many viruses out there. More serious than some, less than others. Like many viruses, there's a post-viral syndrome which is pretty bad for some people. But it's impossible to get worked up and apply mitigation measures for all of them.

What's different now is that some of the population have post infection immunity, some have vaccination-protection, and doctors have a lot more knowledge about how to treat this particular disease. None of that applied in mid 2020.

So yeah, I don't care any more about Covid than about RSV, novovirus, or influenza.

not_sure_what_to_pick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120621659#Comment_120621659

People going out with symptoms and not caring. It's always some 'bug' or 'allergies'.

not_sure_what_to_pick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120622508#Comment_120622508

Fair enough if you don't care for yourself but do you care about spreading it to those that are more vulnerable or just carry on and not care?

DLink

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120623015#Comment_120623015

Carry on and not care, same as we did before covid.

If you have health issues then that's your problem, not mine (or the rest of the population for that matter).

The covid lockdown & restrictions spoiled some people, so much for all Leo's talk of "the new normal" with regards to masks, social distancing, hand shaking, etc, etc.

All gone, back to proper normal for us all, except for the covid diehards unfortunately, the ones who insist on trying to guilt trip or browbeat us into sticking with the restrictions.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120623015#Comment_120623015

The other diseases I listed can be just as bad for "the vulnerable". We are all going to die of something eventually.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120623009#Comment_120623009

From what I can see, people aren't testing themselves anymore. Plausible deniability I guess.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120623242#Comment_120623242

What restrictions??? :)

Risteard81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120632456#Comment_120632456

The ones you promoted, even though it was obvious that they could not work in addition to being totalitarian and unforgiveable in nature.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120632522#Comment_120632522

According to you ;) There are no restrictions so that poster was talking bs and you are just jumping on the bandwagon .

Am glad it's over, no need to read nonsense like above . Bye now .

hotmail.com

It might be another a year or two before the slowest catch up and realise it's over.

What's amazing is people still paying for test kits. I find this absolutely baffling. People have more money than sense.

Chris_5339762

I got another free box of the HSE ones as I'm healthcare. No, I don't personally care about Covid, but living with two 75 year olds I would get confined to my bedroom if I tested positive. Although they're well vaxxed they are still worried about it and although they wouldn't let it affect where they go (shopping really), I can understand their immediate reluctance to be around someone actively sick with it in the house.

JDD

Threw out my remaining tests last week. I was keeping them to test myself before I went to see my Dad, who had cancer. But he's passed away now so there's no need to keep them. My mother is still about - 79, pretty spritely - but I don't think that's enough of a reason to keep testing. If I have a cold I just won't hug her when I see her, which is fairly often.

darconio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120643616#Comment_120643616

Don't you find it a bit controversial that despite being well vaxxed, they are still worried and you still feel the need to test yourself on a daily basis I assume?

Risteard81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120643616#Comment_120643616

You can't test positive if you're clever enough never to have taken one of the silly tests.

Risteard81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120643824#Comment_120643824

The injection certainly won't help.