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Ban on gambling advertising



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,680 ✭✭✭✭callaway92

    and the damn 'FoxyBingo' type ads during daytime TV. Good riddance

    Would lotto ads be included?

  • Registered Users Posts: 747 ✭✭✭lmao10

    Agreed. These gambling sites are scum. If you win a few quid you get restricted. They are only looking for the addicts/losing players. Scumbags.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭oceanman

    hope this includes the lotto adds on tv and radio.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭Wheety

    That'll be an interesting one. Lotteries are obviously gambling but they're not looked at the same way.

    Always thought it was a bit hypocritical of the Lotto going on about safe gambling and being able to restrict yourself etc. but they won't allow you to play 1 line on the Irish Lotto. Has to be a minimum of 2.

  • Registered Users Posts: 77,776 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn

    All for it if Lotto is included and that no lottery programming can run until after 9pm.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Bob the Seducer

    What odds they haven't thought this through properly...

    Unless there is no gambling advertising on any channels included in Sky TV packages sold in Ireland, no references to the Sky Bet Championship etc... on football coverage, no betting company/online casino sponsors on sports jerseys or betting company hoardings around pitches, tracks etc... no betting company title sponsorship of horse / greyhound races eg: 'The Ladbrokes Long Distance Hurdle' etc... a clear ban on the promotion of crypto "investment" gambling and proper restrictions controls and penalties for online gambling promotion in Ireland, it's all pointless.

    You could even end up in a situation where money that would have gone to Irish sports and broadcasters is instead spent on targeting Ireland via UK broadcasters to get around the ban.

    All that without even considering the need to control the deliberate promotion of gambling to kids via video game 'lootboxes', FIFA Ultimate Team packs etc...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭✭kippy

    As I said, it's a start. There are certain types of advertising you won't be able to remove during those hours but the plan I assume is to remove all 'regular' advertising.

    Hopefully, overtime and with the co ordination of the EU, gambling companies will be removed from the eyeballs of those under 18 and the activity will be shunned similar to what has happened smoking over the past few decades.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,926 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss

    They seem to have thought of all of that, or most of it anyway. And accepted that some things just can't be done.

    They've accepted that 'in program advertising' will still be a thing and will be impossible to control especially when it comes from a broadcaster outside the state, as in your 'Ladbroke Handicap Hurdle from here in Kempton live on ITV' example. Ditto pitch-side advertising, shirt sponsors etc. Nothing can reasonably be done about these.

    The bits they can control are TV/radio advertising. The technology exists for Sky Sports to do opt-outs of advertising for the Irish market, so this isn't the issue you think it is (Check out how the adverts mid-game are different already if you ever watch a game in England on Sky).

    They can't do everything. You say failure to do everything on your 'list of things' makes it 'all pointless', but it strikes me as a sensible 'dont let perfect be the enemy of good' approach.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 64,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011

    They're mostly on UK daytime TV, so we'll still be stuck with them.

    Irish TV has far less overall hideous ads than UK ones so if you have Freesat it can be worth retuning the Irish versions of C4, Discovery connected free channels etc etc.

    Average UK adbreak is over 50s plans, credit ratings agencies, gambling / small private lotteries, and chugging. Very few actual products get advertised anymore/

  • Is there an appetite to do likewise in the UK I wonder? Seems gambling ads/companies are way more entrenched in sports there and some other countries. Belgium though I think are going for a ban if I recall, that will have an impact on some teams there in a few sports.

  • Registered Users Posts: 48,739 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover

    Should have been a complete ban.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    Yes, ban everything. It’s always the solution

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭Swaine

    More nanny state bollox.

    Unfortunately the cowardly Irish lap it up.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,399 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    No harm. It's being targeted too much at kids/teens and backed up by in-game mechanics most of these kids/teens play, and they're creating future addicts. We can't on one hand say kids/teens are influenced by others actions, but exclude some actions. Didn't go far enough, YouTube at nights is nearly nothing but gambling ads. Probably because I do the lotto, but I haven't placed a "bet" in about 8 years.

    Unfortunately, it does need to be restricted to adults too, because sheeple be sheeple. The argument of "I can control myself so why should I be restricted" is lost to "for the greater good, because most adults are too stupid irresponsible so they do ruin it for the rest of us, see: every law ever". Gambling is far more negative than positive, and just like smoking should be advertising restricted.

    Those against it will have no problem with legalisation of cannabis so. Or any drug. Most can consume safely, why should they be restricted by those who can't? Same argument for nearly anything. C'est la vie. My opinion vs your opinion.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭FortuneChip

    They're a massive concern.

    The consumer behaviour is identical to gambling, and has all the addictive trappings. Dopamine hit, anticipation of reward etc as you make your payment and your new box opens. It's pure gaming, but because it's filled with colourful imagery and bright graphics it's seen as friendly fun. Toxic stuff, and creates a new generation of addicts who don't understand the consequence of this gaming experience.

  • Registered Users Posts: 42,483 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989

    If the awful working class cant behave themselves whether it be smoking,drinking or gambling

    the state must step in

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo

    It’s 100% nanny state. Imagine the industry you work in is targeted next. No advertising for you. It’s pathetic. The tiny minority of wasters being nannied and it effects everyone, same with MUP etc.

  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭erlichbachman

    Advertisement is the bane of the Internet, all adverts, the constant flow of unwanted and uninitiated banners offering crap that nobody wants.

    If I was made boss of the Internet tomorrow we would never see another online advert again.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭FortuneChip

    They've had a pretty free run of it for a long time with minimal restrictions. They've saturated every media outlet available, with near constant frequency, highlighting the ease of their service, alluded to your potential glory and almost always under the guise of your witty-banter friend.

    A little more responsibility from the industry and they wouldn't be in this position.

    MUP directly impacts a consumer by charging more money.

    This doesn't. You can still bet as much as you like (or the bookie allows), as frequently as you like, on just about anything you like.

    The only entity impacted here; aside from those "wasters" or suspectible/impressionable people (potentially kids) who are being shown all the amazing things about gambling without any of the risks being adequately highlighted, is the gambling industry themselves.

    And I'm not going to cry over them suffering a rare loss.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,250 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious

    But how is a ban on gambling advertising between the hours of 5am and 9pm going to adversely affect you?

    Are you going to miss the ads with the bantz between the guys ?

    Or the ones with the giant or the spaceman that are clearly aimed at young boys ?

    Or are you going to miss what price you can get on an "acca" ? (which is probably the most stupid bet a person can place.)

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    I would be against mup for example. But this has no affect on anyone really Less annoying ads the better how many people sit through ads anyway I normally mute them barely watch tv. Best way to avoid them is just record and then fast forward. It's not effecting price or being put behind curtains. I would be fine will all ads being banned tbh.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,567 ✭✭✭✭castletownman

    To be fair, the problem gambler isn't going to bet on the spur of the moment because Ray Winstone has popped up on the screen. They are probably glued to their app already anyway.

    Gambling is a problem, I know it is, but like most addictions, its the minority that is affected. They may as well ban McDonalds ads while they are at, as obesity is off the charts, and at least gamblers don't clog up our health system.

    I won't miss Peter Crouch and that gimp from Celebrity Juice popping up on my screen every second ad though.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭✭kippy

    Gambling and sport (particularily) should not be intertwined. Kids should not be exposed to gambling advertising. The proliferation of gambling related content and sporting (particularily soccer) events has been worrying for ages.

    Normalising a behaviour such as gambling should not be allowed. So, nobody is asking to ban everything - just things that lead to troublesome behaviour.