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  • 15-11-2022 12:54pm
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭

    Hi all

    I have arthritis in my wrist and elbow.

    I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with ways to lessen the stiffness and pain

    I'm in my mid forties have a good diet and active. Iv had my hip replaced due to arthritis already as its in my family.

    Will I get progressively worse to a point where I can't work

    Open to anything as relief



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭cute geoge

    I am plaged with it as well ,what I understand is exercise is most important but if you have pain ,you have to rest .Heat is next most important ,when I get any ache I find resting the effected joint on a hot water bottle does wonders .I try to keep away from drugs but take 2 spoons of cod liver oil nightly but if you have pain it is better take pain relief .The trick is minimise getting pain .I am 49 and when I get bogged down with aches,I just do the bare minimum ,not ideal but its what works for me .I could work as hard as anyone ,but would not be able to sleep the night and shagged for next 2 days after so I try and pace myself and doing as little as possible .putting yorself under any pressure to get work done certainy no help

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭wrangler

    My wife has arthritis since she was 25, at the time 'gold injections' (whatever they were) was the popular treatment and kept it at bay for thirty years.

    It's back now and a friend who's a medic tells her to avoid the nightshade family such as potatoes and tomatoes etc.

    I'm sure you're wearing a copper bracelet at this stage. It's kinda natural pain relief and some claim rebuilds bone

    It's a tough sentence and it's important to keep active

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm

    Sorry to hear you have arthritis. Old fashioned bottle of cod liver oil definitely works for some people with early stage osteo, but if you have RA it requires specialist care, maybe there are support groups. You hear of all sorts, cider vinegar, etc. You will need to have managed pain relief. Biologics are a new treatment for RA. My neighbour is on biologics for psoriatic arthritis.

  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭jd06

    Thanks for your reply

    Iv not starting wearing the copper band yet.

    Are they good or are there different types?

  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭jd06


    Mine is osteo probably the better of the 2.

    Must try the cod liver oil tabs


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks

    The real cold affects me, I find udder mint good to get the joints heated up

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000

    I think the copper gets absorbed through the skin and gets deposited on the surface of the joints and acts as a lubricant where the natural lubricant has worn off. There’s a few people in the wife’s family in a bad way with it.

    I heard of the gold injection too, but only know of one person that used it. Maybe get a food allergy test done, you could be allergic to some food that you love.

    I know my trigger is cheese, I think it’s the urea that causes the pain when it builds up in the joints. Teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in half a glass of warm water first thing in the morning works for me when I need it.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭orm0nd

    deffo found a difference since I cut out tomatoes totally , still enjoy my kerr's pink but haVE cut back

    magnetic copper bracelet on the left wrist also

    just like george, have to watch the work load, was housing the weanlings yesterday , dosing, clipping , castrating a few ,... knackered today

  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2

    It's a a balls, it's something that's unseen by people around u , I used run 80-100 miles a week, few things went wrong after minor surgery and I went to being not able to dress myself, fortunately the medication works but u would be wrecked on it, I used do walking with an artriris group and they swear by taking two panadol before any activity

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭Tomjim

    is it rheumatoid arthritis? There's a difference between rheumatoid and Osteoarthritis.

    I have rheumatoid and I take Methotrexate once a week and a biologic injection once a month. I'm in good form in general and don't get any flare ups. On the medication 3 years now and so far so good. The rheumatoid attacks your immune system I understand.

    When I got it first I was very bad couldn't walk at one stage aches and pains all over and all I wanted to do was sleep

    Diet is important, Consultant insist that you take the medication to avoid flare ups, he says if you get flare ups, it will affect your joints and you will end up in a worse position

    Don't know much about Osteoarthritis

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm

    Internet search-

    Rheumatoid arthritis, or RA, is an autoimmune and inflammatory disease, which means that your immune system attacks healthy cells in your body by mistake, causing inflammation (painful swelling) in the affected parts of the body. RA mainly attacks the joints, usually many joints at once.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭wrangler

    I wouldn't have real arthritis, just mainly wear and tear and I'd take a couple of tramadol before I do heavy work and find it Great.

    I think there's a bit of an mood riser in them as well which is no harm, OH, who used to be laboratory scientist said you could sell them on the street.

    Like the panadol before work I think it's better not to let the pains start

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Mooooo

    Tramadol can have different effects on different people, so would want to be watched if a long term thing

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭wrangler

    Doctor is always trying to stop it on me, it's a type of opioid, I find it suits me very well and great for back pain, it works in about 20mins.

    I'm using it 12 years on and off and you could get hooked on it.

    Hospital prescribed it at the start after an operation, not with the blessing of the GP i might add

    You wouldn't want to go near it if prone to depression, it definitely gives a lift

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1

    Deep tissue massage should be the first thing you do and lots of it. A lot of joint pain can be caused by excessive tightness in the surrounding muscles.

    It's relatively straight forward to work away at yourself also. Doesn't have to be by a physio. Your body will tell you when to stop.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Mooooo

    Both parents had a poor reaction to it when they were given it, now the father at the time was on a lot of stuff in hospital but the mother was given it for a broken collar bone, didn't agree with her at all, affected the mood badly.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭wrangler

    Yea, there's plenty of horror stories about it, a friend had horrendous nightmares taking it

    I take a good few tablets myself every day and and any change of medication can cause havoc so when something suits very well it's a pity to ignore it,

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭Cork Lass

    I use udder cream a lot. I have arthritis and arthrofibrosis so am on opioids for the pain but on bad days I use the udder cream as well. It's mighty stuff.

  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭jd06

    Thanks to everyone for the all the replies some great ideas there

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  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Co. Clare Man

    I am sorry to hear of youse's unfortunate diagnoses. I sincerely hope that my information might be of assistance to youse who are facing difficulties with arthritis. I don't know anything about rheumatoiud arthritis, but I know a fair bit about osteoarthritis.

    Youse might wish to try taking Arthelio (containing a unique combination of an inactivated culture of Bifidobacterium Longum CBi0703 and Vitamin C specifically formulated to contribute towards normal collagen forming for the healthy function of cartilage). It is NOT a medicine; it is a food supplement, basically. Pamex distributes this to pharmacies here in Ireland. It ain't that common 'cos it is relatively new to the market and is very pricey. Youse's pharmacists or youse's GPs or youse's medical consultants may be able to advise youse on whether or not it would be suitable. It is definitely way more effective than taking Dona, though.

    Youse may want to try using FlexiSEQ or FlexiSEQ Max Strength for osteoarthritis. It relieves pain, improves mobility and lubricates cartilage. Pretty much any pharmacy should have this gel stocked very frequently.

    For pain relief, youse could also perhaps try using Diclac or Nurofen Gel. Sprays and/or gels from Deep Freeze and/or Deep Heat might provide you with pain relief also. Gel from BIOFREEZE might help youse also. Again, pretty much every pharmacy should have these stocked frequently.

    I'd be inclined to steer clear of using Nurofen,et cetera in tablet form, because they can be very hard on the tummy when frequently used over even relatively short periods of time.

    In my honest opinion, the long-popular copper wrist bracelets and/or copper footwear insoles are fairly effective.

    If youse ever happen to face severe mobility issues, then you will likely want to obtain a quadraped walking cane or a three- or four-wheeled walker.

    I'd strongly suggest that youse consult a fully qualified physiotherapist who can provide you with simple, yet effective strengthening exercises for you to perform at home. The same professionals who help those with sports injuries do indeed provide assistance to those with arthritis also. A physio also can perform deep-tissue massages for youse. A physio may also recommend that youse use a textile supporting brace for your knees, elbows, shoulders, back or hips. It is really best to ask a physio's advice before purchasing a support brace youse-selves from a pharmacy or an adaptive-living retail outlet. They do indeed help many people in numerous circumstances, but physios usually recommend against their frequent use.

    I'd also advise that youse try going to a hydrotherapy at a specialist pool or perhaps at a hotel swimming-pool centre. That basically amounts to walking through water in a heated pool. It really does help in a big way, though!

    Perhaps a holistic healer may be of assistance to youse. I've heard of holistic healing, but I dunno anything about it myself.

    Finally, youse's GPs/medical consultants/physios may possibly refer youse to an oesteopath or to a orthopedic surgeon for artificial-implant surgery, if youse's conditions might unfortunately worsen profoundly.

    I wish youse all the very best in alleviating the symptoms of arthritis.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭RetroEncabulator

    I'm starting to suspect I have an arthritis issue myself. Lower back pain that's just not going away and clicky feet and knees... I'd a few bouts where I couldn't really walk very far at all.

    I don't think I'd go anywhere near Tramadol personally, had a horrendous reaction to it once when it was given to me after ear surgery - memory loss and total disorientation and was only in my late teens at the time. Didn't know where I was or anything.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1

    Briefly spent some time on a biological also but was allergic. So went back to the older cytotoxic alternative. Carries the same risks but it's just a case of hope for the best... It is something I've been afraid of from the start but don't have an alternative

  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭jaginsligo

    I have no medical experience but just sharing mine. I have arthritis in both my knees confirmed by x-ray. I made a few changes, cut out tomatoes and tomato based sauce foods, I drink a small amount of apple cider vinegar each day but the biggest change I have seen is since I have reduced my intake of red meat. I'm a farmer so I haven't gone vegan or anything but now instead of been in serious pain each morning getting up I'm now almost pain free.

    Just my experience

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭cute geoge

  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2

    Bang on with tomato, night shade I think they call it, be one of the first things to cut out

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭Good loser

    Best to have these things out in the open. Your post could seriously help someone with your affliction. Well done!

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭wrangler

    Potatoes too are of the same Deadly Nightshade family as tomatoes that aggravates arthritis,

    I change to soya mik when my asthma is bad or have a chest infection, any of those auto immune diseases can be triggered by something you eat.

    Neighbours child had eczema and it use to clear almost miraculously just by changing from cows milk to goats/soya milk, oat milk is very nice too

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