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Sport is the new Religion and we should be delighted

  • 07-11-2022 3:20pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭


    Written by a holy joe, it’s not surprising that this is his opinion.

    Probably written in response to the recent bad coverage the GAA has gotten in the IT about favouritism, exclusion and over-competitiveness in underage teams.

    Hopefully people may realise that we don’t need another religion to replace the toxic one we’re still getting over and see this biased piece for what it is. For all the greats he’s named, he leaves out Michelle Smith, Cian O’Connor, Roy Keane, the behaviour of parents that has referees withdrawing their services and so much else.

    So maybe he is right, sport is like religion, Michael Cleary, Eamon Casey, every priest with their hand in the till, crushing anyone who doesn’t conform, get them at a young age, keep them for life. There are many similarities.

    Sorry if this seems like such a whinge but I am sick of this orthodoxy that you have to be part of something bigger. It’s toxic. You don’t. You can just be yourself first and foremost.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I for one welcome our new cleated overlords



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,535 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Sport is the same as it's always been, albeit a lot more corporate now. I feel like he's trying to take some thought that occurred to him in the shower and turn it into some sort of deep intellectual argument.

    Personally, I can't imagine anything duller than watching sport. It's the epitome of tedium for me.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Sport is the new religion is the new opium of the masses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    The rugby lads can pray to BOD and complain about the scourge of unprotected Sexton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,440 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Probably written in response to the recent bad coverage the GAA has gotten in the IT about favouritism, exclusion and over-competitiveness in underage teams.


    It’s not written in response to anything. It’s an article basically written about the ideas in his new book in which it appears he interviews Irish sports people about the part that their faith plays in their lives, and makes a wider commentary about the overlap between faith and sports -

    Gerard Gallagher works with Association of Leaders of Missionaries & Religious of Ireland and is author of Faith: In Search of Greater Glory in Sport

    He’s not saying you can’t be yourself or anything else, he’s basically observing the similarities and intertwining values between faith and sports and how they interact and inform each other in individuals and as a social pursuit -

    What is common among those featured and many others around the country is that they have faith in themselves, faith in their team-mates and backroom team, and faith in a greater power that, perhaps, can help them to reach their greatest potential on the biggest stages of their sporting careers.

    There is no such thing as the perfect Christian. Neither is there any such thing as the perfect athlete. Both Christians and sportspeople strive for perfection. In sport there are many winners fulfilling their dreams. Yet there are many others who have had an honest go at trying to be the best they could be. Isn’t that the greater glory?

    You’re reading far too much into it and coming away with something that isn’t there. There’s nothing toxic in seeking to be part of something greater than oneself. It’s the opposite of insular, narcissistic navel gazing and being unable to see further than the end of your own nose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    The media always refer to sports men as warriors which I find ludicrous and actually offensive to the generations of men who had to die in battle fields. You always see it in those RTE GAA pre game montages when they paint the game as some sort of medieval war between dynasties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The media always refer to sports men as warriors which I find ludicrous and actually offensive to the generations of men who had to die in battle fields. 

    I'd say men who died in battle would not begrudge the use of the term warriors for sportspeople. You have little to be at being offended on their behalf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Really weird article trying to stitch some connection between sport and religion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭20Wheel


    Yeah but identity politics is the new biggest sport.

    So petty horsesht about who said what in which context is the new religion.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,812 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Anything that people can do a bit of 'holier than thou' finger wagging is a new religion.

    Take your pick from cycling, veganism, environment, wokery.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Can’t control people from the pulpit anymore, so let’s try with sport. Players parading their babies around after a match, it isn’t something that happened 20 or even 10 years ago.

    I’m going to sound like a real snowflake, woke gobsh1*e or whatever now but I’ll say it anyway. It’s a conformist message, promotes heteronormative stereotypes and is pro-natalist. In a sport that claims to be inclusive, displays like that exclude players, young people and fans who don’t conform to or don’t want to conform to those ideas.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,440 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    You nailed the sounding like a snowflake bit anyway 😁

    But this -

    Players parading their babies around after a match, it isn’t something that happened 20 or even 10 years ago.

    Dunno what neck of the woods you’re from, but it was a regular occurrence in my experience. Oliver Callan does a good skit of the phenomenon that still to this day is fairly widespread, not just in GAA circles, but all sports and social circles* -



    *Have you ever experienced people bringing their children to work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    kids in work? yep, that is the worst.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭earlyevening


    Discussion reminds me of this




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Both prey on the weaknesses of the sheeple. Both have cult like followings. Both cause exclusion. It didn't replace it, it's just another version.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭hoodie6029




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ThePentagon


    "So maybe he is right, sport is like religion, Michael Cleary, Eamon Casey, every priest with their hand in the till, crushing anyone who doesn’t conform, get them at a young age, keep them for life. There are many similarities."


    Personally, I don't see any substantial similarities between religion and sport. And, it being a free country, as an adult you're not under any pressure to engage with sport - nobody is forcing you to "conform" to anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,517 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Imagine if followers of a certain sports team controlled 90% of primary schools, insisted on telling kids that followers of other sports teams were at best misguided at worst evil... etc etc

    Article is the usual woolly-headed load of crap we've come to expect from religion peddlers these days.

    He says religion and sport bring people together, in reality they're extremely tribalist and divisive.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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