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Qatar World Cup

  • 30-10-2022 11:52am
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just reading an article on the RTE website about the world cup in Qatar.

    Most people I know are not planning to watch the world cup including myself because of the LGBTQ+ and human rights abuses. To say for MOST involved in football the concept of a gay person playing being alien is utterly nuts - in Ireland at least. Sure there are homophobes but this is just not the reality.

    IMO these kind of adversarial sweeping generalisation statements just put up barriers that didn't exist in the first place, and make it harder for gay people to come out.

    Maybe the quote was taken out of context for clickbaity purposes by RTE - would be par for the course. Perhaps he was referring to the FAI but this isn't clear from the article.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭ gypsy79




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,765 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    My sentiments exactly. Vile organisation. The World Cup is supposed to bring people together. Instead, it's a tawdry, money-siphoning operation.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭ Sweet Talkin Romeo


    hopefully we'll see a pitch invasion from Rapinoe in protest of their illiberal antics 😅



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,765 CMod ✭✭✭✭ ancapailldorcha


    I don't think it makes a difference. Soccer has become such a base enterprise now. I've no idea how people can stand to watch it after the European Super League fiasco but as long as they do, the club owners will continue to rake it in.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭ Potential-Monke


    Actually, that's probably a good thing. We can now see exactly which companies are all about looking good vs actually caring. Not that I expect it will make any difference whatsoever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭ Potential-Monke


    See



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭ elefant


    On the OP's post: I don't think it's utterly nuts at all to suggest that gay people playing competitive team sports is alien to most Irish people. I've played competitive team sports all my life, and and I don't think I've ever been on a team with an openly gay teammate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ Cal4567


    I have principles but if you don't like them I have others you can choose from.

    Yes, butchering a famous Groucho quote to show the hypocrisy of certain companies and corporations. When there's money to be made?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can't ever remember being in a dressing room where people announced their sexuality. I just assumed some of my teammates could well be gay. Having said that, back in the 1980s and 90s this was indeed an alien concept; however the last 20 years it surely isn't anymore? I'm in my 50s and openly gay people are part of our friend group and working life - no one cares as far as I can see. The homophobes would be a small minority.

    I can't imagine younger people are more homophobic than my generation, at least not what I see from my kids.

    Of course this doesn't mean that people don't feel they wouldn't be accepted if they came out - but I'd venture to guess they would be by most people. Maybe I'm just naive.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You're probably right - even those with strong positions now might be swayed by the prospect of say Brazil v France or something ....



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭ elefant


    I would assume so too - but I know (and have known) the vast majority of my teammates over the years very well, and none of them have ever been openly out.

    I'm sure nobody would be discriminatory if someone did come out, and I expect most would be actively supportive, but I also think it would be a totally new experience for 99% of the group to be in a team sport environment with an openly gay teammate. I think it would take a lot of bravery for someone in that culture to be the first to come out, and I'm not sure admitting to that makes the situation any worse than it already is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would agree with this, and ultimately someone has to be the first. Rugby is decades ahead of football in this sense. It's like my gay first cousin said to me recently, these days people throw confetti and ribbons at gay pride marches. Back in 1980s London (where he grew up) it was bricks and broken bottles. OFC in Ireland there weren't any at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭ Furze99


    There's going to be an increasing focus on Iranian participation in coming weeks. Apart from the unrest concerning women's rights, they are supplying weaponry and munitions to Russia for their invasion of Ukraine.

    Iran is in the same group as the USA, England and Wales......... going to be a shitstorm



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