Fuel disruption France and general civil disputes across EU

RavenBea17b

What are your thoughts about the ongoing disruption in France due to refinery staff striking ? In addition, a general malaise across the EU, cost living increases , inflation.

How each country is dealing with the ongoing situation.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20221017-france-braces-for-nationwide-strike-amid-fuel-shortage-tensions

Wibbs

The French love a good strike and protest and fair play to them, we could do with some of that here, but they do tend to be a bit trigger happy with them. I'm not seeing any "general malaise" across the EU. If anything I'm seeing less of that going on since covid fecked off. The UK are in the poo at the moment alright, but they're not in the EU and a large percentage of the poo they're in is because they're not anymore.

RavenBea17b

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756707#Comment_119756707

The 'general malaise' across Europe I was thinking was such as farmers protests (Germany, Netherlands, Belgium etc) during the last couple of months. Cost of living marches (Germany, Italy, Austria etc). Proposed energy rationing for industry, (I think it was Germany/France) that sort of thing (some of which may not be a bad thing).

Goodness only knows the UK situation is just baffling.

ancapailldorcha

Going to be par for the course for a long while to come. I think much of this is being overhyped by the media though. We know winter is going to be rough and we know why though here in the UK, it's the staggeringly stupid and corrupt government that's solely to blame. Thankfully for the EU, they do not need to worry about that.

France has never been a terribly stable country and the French do seem to relish a good strike. The Dutch are some of the worst emitters in Europe and that needs to be reckoned with sooner or later.

Europe will do what it's done since the EU was formed, squabble and carry on.

Yurt2

A strike in France? It must be Monday again. Thanks for the reminder.

Dyr

I think we should all just calm down, safe in the knowledge that the general thrust of Europe is in the right direction, in 10 years we'll be spending a fortune to import our food and energy from countries that don't give a **** about the planet so that we can save the planet. If we don't like it, then I'm sure Brussels can convince some EU court to get the big stick out to remind us that we dont have a choice when it comes to the greater good.

Or Europeans everywhere except Ireland will say **** that for a game of cowboys and stop electing the Social Democrat goofballs that caused the current state of affairs

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756926#Comment_119756926

“Social democrat?”

funny when people use American political parlance to bemoan European politics.

Astartes

Everything is fine lol nothing is happening and no one is responsible

Larbre34

I once watched 50 French farmers barricade me and hundreds of others into a supermarket carpark with tractors, while others of them walked in and stole all the milk and all the beer.

The milk went down the gutter and the beer went down their necks. After about an hour they lifted the barricade and moved on to the next supermarket to do the same.

As has been said above, its just Monday in France.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757211#Comment_119757211

Its funny when people who don't actually know anything about European politics state that Social Democrat has not been used in poltical parlance here for generations 😂

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757319#Comment_119757319

Just strikes me funny like there’s no democrat party in the EU. Gotta get our left vs right on in this thread hey, can’t discuss fuel without blaming the socialists and the democrats

blackwhite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757362#Comment_119757362

Social Democrat is a specific brand of left-leaning politics in Europe - nothing to do with importing Americanisms in this case.

There's been significant parties across most of across Europe describing themselves as Social Democrats for over 150 years - some now defunct, some still in existence. In particular in the Germanic and Nordic countries there is a long-standing tradition of the the Social Democrats being one of the larger political parties.

In the 20th Century, the Social Democrat / Democratic Socialists label was used to distinguish themselves as in favour of Democracy with socialist policies as opposed to the type of authoritarian socialists who ruled over much of Eastern Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democrats_%28Denmark%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Austria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Finland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Switzerland