Honda Civic e:HEV

Rida

Any news on when coming to Ireland or price?

pjackson

I contacted Clonskeagh Motors about 4 weeks ago. They had no information re availability or pricing at that stage.

bodonnell

I contacted Honda Ireland over 2 months ago, still waiting on any update re new civic.

Tech_Head

I got a call back last week. Demo cars should be hitting showrooms next month for Jan / Feb orders.

Tech_Head

No idea yet on prices yet

JohnC.

What's e-hev? Better not be what I'm imagining...

ELM327

Another nonsense "Self Charging" hybrid from japan.

Give it over, ye're 20 years late to the party

Honda Civic Hybrid 2022 Reviews | Expert Opinions - Honda UK

Comer1

Starting at £30,000, approximately what would that be in Ireland?

Tech_Head

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755404#Comment_119755404

That’s the big question. Looking at other UK cars it’ll be around €44/45k

Comer1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755975#Comment_119755975

Honda are pricing themselves out of the market. Jazz starting at just shy of €30,000 here (£21,000 in UK) so yea, that would put the Civic starting in the low to mid 40K range. I bought my last middle range Accord in 2013 for €36,000 and my last Civic 1.5 (180BHP) in 2017 for €29,500.

When will the madness end?😐️

ddcluracan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755276#Comment_119755276

Isn't that a little disingenuous, I don't remember Honda ever advertising their cars as "self charging". As for the price its direct competitor the corolla hybrid starts around €30K and goes up to €39K. If as somebody mentioned that it would be €44/€45K that's CR-V territory. I am actually intrigued by this car. No gearbox just electric motors driving the wheels until high speed/motorways. It could tempt some people away from diesel while not quite ready for full EV.

ddcluracan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756861#Comment_119756861

Actually just noticed the Honda.ie site has cleared all their prices so increases are probably on the way.

liamog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756861#Comment_119756861

It's just another full hybrid entering the market many years too late. Better than the mild-hybrids companies are releasing for compliance reasons but not by much

JohnC.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119756861#Comment_119756861

Look at the link he posted. It's a Honda site. It describes the car as self-charging. "The all-new Honda Civic e:HEV arrives this autumn. The dynamic self-charging, full hybrid hatchback complements the Civic's design and technology with exhilarating, electrified power."

Tech_Head

I haven’t had a dealer quote a price beyond that it’ll be more expensive. I compared the £30k to other cars between £25-35k to come up with my figure.

They’re aiming for the more premium market I believe so will be pricier than the Corolla. New Corolla out next year too I think so expect that to be pricier too.

They seem to have discontinued the Type R for Ireland too so no manual Civics at all anymore.

ddcluracan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757072#Comment_119757072

Okay, sorry I was not looking at the UK Honda site. Ultimately though it will be the price that determines its success not whether it uses the dreaded "self charging" moniker in its marketing. We shall wait and see.

Tech_Head

I don’t mind the self charging piece. It’s a mid way car really.

The engine is a generator for the battery. That gives decent mpg (reviews confirm) and no range anxiety. I’m sure there’s a market for that.

Tech_Head

Any experience at the dealers? Both they and Honda Ireland have seemed less than interested about the car when I ask about it.

liamog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757343#Comment_119757343

It's called a series hybrid, they've been around for a good while. At the end of the day, it's just another petrol-powered car. I don't expect this car to have any meaningful effect on Honda's Irish sales numbers.

I think the technology is aimed at developing markets to lower fuel consumption where full electrification is too expensive.

Old diesel

The problem with price is that the Civic name was associated with a Corolla/Focus sized car.

However the car that's rolled up this time looks more of a traditional Avensis hatchback class of car..

For added confusion the actual original Civics from the 70s when Honda were not actually in Ireland were actually Fiesta/Renault 5 sized cars.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757921#Comment_119757921

I don't expect this car to have any meaningful effect on Honda's Irish sales numbers.

No harm there. Its so boring anyway that anyone buying one has probably giving up on life.

Honestly the current Civic and the two models before it both look far more modern and stylish both inside and outside than this boring Civic so if Honda want to price themselves out of the market let them. I have no problem with that. The less of these on the roads the better.

pjackson

I totally disagree with the comment about how boring the new Civic us compared with the current and previous models. I think it's a clean elegant design both on the exterior and interior. Each to their own I guess.

Jasper79

I think it looks really well, and the engine setup is intriguing. I've been told mid November for Launch models and pricing towards end of November. Disappointing when other markets are already taking orders and some delivered. Pricing will be key, I think once they push over the 40k they are competing with full on electric cars and for alot of people, me included the car won't make much sense. Still will go for a test drive once available.

pjackson

I dropped into Clonskeagh Motors this evening. They had a grey base model (Elegance) on the floor which they had brought in from the UK and which a customer has bought. The price quoted was (wait for it) €46,800. However they still don't having confirmed Irish pricing from Universal Honda or availability dates. I am not sure how they got to a price of nearly 47K for their showroom car. The Elegance model is on the VRT calculator at just over €5K and with that based on the current exchange rate and allowing for the 3% VAT rate difference I get to a price of between 40K and 41K including metallic for the Elegance model. At that price I might be interested but if it is more like 47K I will be looking elsewhere. The distributor would really want to get its act together if they want to shift some metal in 2023.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119882648#Comment_119882648

Given that it was in UK I wonder if someone (ie Revenue) is deciding that a 10 percent WTO tariff is due.

Because it wasn't built in UK.

So potentially Revenue or someone treating this Civic as an import from UK that wasn't built there.

10 percent WTO tariff plus 1 to 2 k delivery charge would make up the difference imo.

Why you'd bring in a car that way is beyond me.*

But if a good customer really wanted a car and were willing to pay then all bets are off.

*its arrived and a price calculated before the availability and pricing even confirmed.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755276#Comment_119755276

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119755276#Comment_119755276

Not just the Japanese. Never heard anyone rubbishing Hyundai's effort to get a slice of the self charging pie

https://mobile.hyundai.co.uk/hybrid-cars

pjackson

Just had a look at the French website and base model is 32.3K. With 3% additional VRT and c. 5K VRT and allowing for delivery and metallic I reckon it would be bang on 40K if Universal Honda don't add on a rip off margin. I've emailed them to see if they can offer any timeline re pricing and availability.

bodonnell

Donnellys, Ballymena have a Sport model advertised for approx. £31k or €36.5k (before vrt etc)

bodonnell

Was in a honda dealership today.

Salesman told me they are not getting any cars until December. No pricing details yet.

They will only be selling the top of the range Advance model. Apparently there are no rhd models available for the Irish market with the standard instrument cluster in kph!

The Advance has a digital cluster which can either have mph or kph.

shabaranks

More than a little interested in one of these, need to replace a diesel but not ready for Electric, this seems a good compromise. Spoke with a dealer in the west today who explained that he was pulling his hair out with the lack of info from Honda. No pricing but confirmed it will be top spec only in the short term. The 'cluster' issue is why the HRV replacement isn't here also. His expectation (with some apologies) was that this will retail for high €40's. Not so long ago that was Type R money.

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119923119#Comment_119923119

Can you charge at home.....

If so then a plug in hybrid might suit you.

Just putting it out there.

The Kia Niro is worth a look as a PHEV or if Kia have started offering it in Ireland standard non plug in hybrid.

Kia don't use a CVT gearbox either which some people find a turn off on hybrid Toyotas.

Of course the Toyota hybrid are still a very good choice for ICE driving - proven reliability due to very mature technology - 25 years they've been doing hybrid for since original Prius.