Thanks

JaneyMackey

Edit: Thanks for the responses here, I appreciate it. I’ll let yous know how it goes

Hobgoblin11

impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt when the damage occurred i would have thought, keying a car is a dastardly crime to take responsibility for if you didn't do it

JaneyMackey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726709#Comment_119726709

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NUTLEY BOY

Legal advice not allowed. Looking at this as a theoretical case study.

At what point are gardai required to caution a suspect ?

Has the suspect self-incriminated by apparently identifying themselves if they had not been cautioned first ?

Hobgoblin11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726739#Comment_119726739

again if you didnt do it, dont back down, disgusting crime

Pinoy adventure

Mount joy is waiting on you

JaneyMackey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726749#Comment_119726749

I get what you're saying. They took a statement from me so I was under caution.

But again, the video shows literally nothing bar a person walking down a street

JaneyMackey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726753#Comment_119726753

Unfortunately knowing how this place operates I'd be done, while some lad with 200 previous convictions would be let off

csirl

Sounds fishy.

But do some due diligence on your movements. If you normally have your phone with you, your google timeline will have your movements on it. If the time you passed the house is very different (or you didnt pass it at all that date), then you know the figure on the video isnt you. If so, its game over.

csirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726749#Comment_119726749

Good point.

Note that if you accept a caution, the owner could sue you for the damage and would likely win as you admitted it.

JaneyMackey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726770#Comment_119726770

Yes I checked this. The time on my phone shows I walked past the house alright on that date. But the exact time on the CCTV is unclear as apparently it was either an hour behind or an hour ahead. Can't remember which they said so must get my solicitor to check that.

bucketybuck

Even if you walked past the car that doesn't mean the damage was done at that time.

Don't get wrapped up in some idea of innocent people getting railroaded for things they didn't do. If you didn't do it, and they have no evidence that you did it, then you will be fine. Certainly do not admit to something you didn't do.

The Guard could easily be playing a bluff, because if you had done it then you might actually feel that accepting a caution is your best option at this point. I suspect he knows full well that this would never get near court, but is hoping you don't know that.

If I were in your shoes I would tell him to either charge me or go away.

shalom

Do you have any previous convictions?

TooTired123

If you didn’t do it then you must simply reiterate that and stick to it. There’s no way you’d get me to agree that I did/didn’t do something when it’s not true.

He has no proof, I expect, that his car was keyed that night and not at any time in the days/weeks previous.

Good luck.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058266877/being-charged-with-criminal-damage

If you didn’t do it you’re grand

JaneyMackey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726867#Comment_119726867

Nope. Not even penalty points. Literally the only time I’ve dealt with Gardaí outside run of the mill passport, drivers license stuff

Is it possible that the local Garda Inspector is pals with the selfish gobsh1te who parked his car and blocked the footpath?

Irrespective of how this turns out, why not ask the Gardaí why they aren't prosecuting a moron who persists in blocking the footpath.

JaneyMackey

I’ve begun to suspect that myself!

Haha I was tempted to ask that alright. Like the only reason I’d be anywhere near the car is that I had to walk by it on the footpath

Mrs OBumble

How come the guards have resources to put this much effort into a keyed car?

JaneyMackey

I suspect because it’s quite a posh are. Or as said above the owner is a Gardas mate or something

GSBellew

I don't think I would be inclined to complain about the car blocking the footpath, they might try to twist that back on you.

Akrasia

If it's a criminal charge them they have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that you commited the crime. Walking a dog along a public footpath is nowhere near enough evidence that you did it.

newmember2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119726770#Comment_119726770

How is it game over?? It's not a crime to walk your dog past a car...wtf?

Seth Brundle

The Garda then informed me that the owner of the car claims it was at this point that they think their car was keyed and as I was the only person who walked by the car that night I must be responsible.

The owner has nothing to prove that the car was not damaged beforehand bar an assumption - they don't even seem sure when the keying occurred but know it was you?

Based on what you've told us, they have nothing to show in terms of who caused the damage or when it happened. Jesus, the damage could have been there for a year but the owner has recently found an opportunity to blame someone.

The owner then makes an assumption that it was you but again, you cannot be clearly identified - everyone is presuming it is you.

TheWonderLlama

Tell them nuthin.

So, a figure, with a hoodie up (face not visible) is alleged to have keyed a car a year ago and the filth have decided you're responsible?

Nah. A thousand other people could have walked past that car that same evening.

The damage could have been done at a different time.

The person in the video is not me. Couldn't be.

There is no way this is going to court. DPP would laugh it out of his office.

Seth Brundle

Actually, did the gardai review the footage from the entire night or are they taking this further based only on what the car owner has claimed?

JaneyMackey

They seemed to have the full recording of the evening

Borzoi

I didn't think that CCTV was allowed record people in public, such as on a path. you could counter claim under GDPR , then he follows you home?? stalking?

whole thing is a crock of nonsense. a total waste of garda resources based on the victims sleuthing

shalom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119727335#Comment_119727335

I like the sound of this . He he he

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119727335#Comment_119727335

You don't think that CCTV is allowed to record people in public?

I'm curious why you think all those millions of CCTV cameras are allowed everywhere...

Count Dracula

What's your dogs name?