Motor Tax & Revenue ?

huud

Hi,

I have a bought a 2nd hand car, and wanted to know the following :

1) When do I pay the motor tax soon as I have the new log book, or any time of the year ?

2) Do I need to register the 2nd hand car with Revenue ?

Thank You

Atlantic Dawn

The tax will be due for the month the ownership of the car changed to you. You will have signed the logbook with your details and dated it, the current owner sends this away and a new logbook is posted out to you. You can then tax the car online at motortax.ie, it can be done in terms of 3, 6, 9 or 12 months, it's cheapest to tax it for 12 months.

No need to inform Revenue.

huud

Thanks for clarifying that.

I have a 2nd car as well which I'm looking to sell, both cars were bought same time. Both were bought at the start of September, both log books came late, towards end of September.

For the car which I want to sell, as I understand I should tax it for 3 months and then sell it right ?

When do I pay any penalty, if any, for motor tax in my situation ?

Rmulvany

When you purchased the car in September was there any active tax on the car? This would stay in place until due for renewal even if the car changed owners.

If they car was out of tax when you purchased it you will (as stated above) have to pay the tax from date of purchase onwards.

If the car was out of tax for over a month then Revenue could look for arrears payment, but in the event of a car sale they would pursue the seller for this. Afaik this was brought in a couple of years back to prevent the loophole where the car would change owners in a household to avoid having to pay arrears

User1998

You don’t have to tax the second car before selling it

huud

The tax for the car to be sold is valid till Oct 2022, just don't know the date.

Where can I check the date ?

gipi

It's always the end of the month, so if your tax disc says 10-22, tax runs out on 31/10/2022.

@Rmulvany "If the car was out of tax for over a month then Revenue could look for arrears payment, but in the event of a car sale they would pursue the seller for this. Afaik this was brought in a couple of years back to prevent the loophole where the car would change owners in a household to avoid having to pay arrears"

I don't think this is the case. Any arrears due before the car is sold "fall away" when the vehicle is transferred to another owner - the loophole hasn't been closed off (yet)

huud

Thanks all, understood, and appreciate everyone's input..

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119696675#Comment_119696675

Yep, not worth it for the tax that would be collected. Most cars in the ‘new’ system now so compliance it much higher as the cost is less. The ‘old’ system cars will continue to age out to the vintage rate or just be scrapped as end of life vehicles.

huud

Am I being asked to pay arrears because the log book was applied for in Sep ?

huud

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119696589#Comment_119696589

Sorry missed this, thanks..

hoodie6029

If the log book was transferred to you in September you are only liable for September onwards. Screenshot looks like you are being charged back to July. Is the car still in the previous owner’s name?

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119701494#Comment_119701494

you purchased the car in september. The tax is owed from the first day of that month irrespective of what day you bought it.

huud

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119704546#Comment_119704546

The car was transferred to my name in Sep, how to know I'm being charged from July. It does not mention, it only says Tax expired in July, while Arrears period is from 1st to 30th Sep..

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119705366#Comment_119705366

you are not being charged back to july. You are being charged from the start of the month you became the owner. it is showing as arrears as you are not paying until october.

bazz26

The reason you are being charged arears for September is because ownership transfered to you during that month. Even if ownership changed on the last day of September you will still be charged arears for the entire month of September. That is how the system is setup.

huud

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119705774#Comment_119705774

Thanks for clarifying that..

Buffman

If the car was off the road until October you should first declare it off the road for September before taxing it. This will clear the arrears for September and you can then tax from October as normal.

https://www.motarviews.ie/ORD/login

"Q14. I've just bought a vehicle - how can I make a declaration that I intend to keep it off the road for a while?

A14. If you have just bought a new vehicle or just acquired a second hand one and do not intend to use it immediately, you will have 21 days from the date of purchase (as specified in the registration document or the notification of transfer of vehicle ownership) to furnish a declaration of non-use. In that case, the declaration will commence from the first day of the month in which the sale takes place, or the first day of the month of registration in the case of new vehicles.

Make sure you notify the seller that you are intending to declare the vehicle off the road and that you need him or her to ensure that the change of ownership is notified to the National Vehicle and Driver File as soon as possible."

huud

Thanks for the input guys..

CoBo55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119709066#Comment_119709066

He can't declare it off road as the month has passed, easier to tax it paying the one month arrears.

Buffman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119710405#Comment_119710405

Did you read what I linked to? You have 21 days from the date of purchase to declare it off the road, doesn't matter what month it is.