Lower Decks 3x06 - 'Hear All, Trust Nothing ' ~~ { Spoilers Within }

ilovesmybrick · 29-09-2022 9:01am #1

Lower Decks 3x06 - 'Hear All, Trust Nothing ' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** } Warning: This thread will contain spoilers

ilovesmybrick · 29-09-2022 12:29pm

Favourite episode of the season so far! The animation of DS9 was phenomenal and the cameos were a delight. Also I liked that it was a callback to one of my favourite episodes of DS9. Slow start this season, but the past two episodes have been top notch.

corkie · 29-09-2022 1:28pm

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hear_All%2C_Trust_Nothing_%28episode%29

Continuity

This episode features the return of Admiral Les Buenamigo, who was introduced in the LD Season 3 premiere "Grounded".

This episode features the return to Deep Space 9, the first visit to the station since the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine series finale "What You Leave Behind", and the return of the Karemma, who last appeared twenty-seven years ago in the episode "Starship Down".

Name drops included references to Jake Sisko, Miles O'Brien, and his mirror universe counterpart Smiley.

Legacy cameos of those who have remained in the years since, included Kira Nerys is still in command, Quark still running his bar, and Morn still being his number one customer.

Special guest stars

Armin Shimerman as "Quark"
Nana Visitor as "Col. Kira Nerys

Enjoyable episode.

eadrom · 29-09-2022 5:19pm

Wa-hay! I didn't know there was going to be "a DS9 episode" until Stark mentioned it the other day on the main ST:LD thread, so this was a nice surprise.

Seeing Quark and Kira bicker with each other again was great!

The station looked great.

Amazing that they can fit three good story threads into the runtime of these episodes but they do and I enjoyed all three. Particularly the trade deal with Quark and Kira taking part.

Great seeing DS9 again. This time-frame would be perfect for a more serious and dramatic animation series. Relatively inexpensive enough to be able to focus on less mainstream-friendly aspects of Trek, and just continue on from Nemesis or whatever it was that happened last.

Slydice · 29-09-2022 9:59pm

Awe that was great! Just so much fun! And hearing Nana Visitor and Armin Shimermans voices! AND Mourn! and they remembered it's Colonel!

Fun but also relaxing and soothing a bit 🙂

AND THE FLYBY AT THE START!!! 😂

TheValeyard · 29-09-2022 10:34pm

That was ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!

30-09-2022 12:46pm

I just smiled ny way through that entire episode.

I was in awe of the pylons!

30-09-2022 12:51pm

Why could Michael have been like Mariner.

Mariner is as head strong, insubordinate, "bossy", and know-all but she knows that it is too much at times and has grown, consistantly, from the first season. The original threads were full of (and I think that I was one) people groaning that they were doubling down on asshole characters always getting rewarded. This has been fantastic character development.

I know we have "Bold" Boimler, at the moment, but it kinda feels like his character is being left behind. Mariner has a relationship and aforementioned growth, Tendi is on the advanced training program and is coming to terms with herself, and Rutherford has that entire sub-plot about his implant growing for years now.

What has Boimler got? A duplicate doing better than him, in the path he wanted

Spear · 30-09-2022 1:38pm

A lot of good moments and callbacks to give everything a warm fuzzy nostalgic glow. And a lot of character progression focus, Mariner and her attempts to get along with people she may not like, Bold Boimler continues, Tendi opens up about uncomfortably Orion past. Little for Rutherford, but he had his time last episode. Some of the riffs on DS9 were right on target - 'Just keep circling...'

The basic storyline was fairly simple, which is fine as a mcguffin to get the DS9 setting and callbacks going. But it does seem a little lacking in ambition. And that seems to be a running theme of the season so far. No major battles, no ships being terraformed, infested by aliens etc. After the great set pieces of season 2, like the saving of the Archimedes or the rescue by the Titan, it all feels a little flat so far.

30-09-2022 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119685205#Comment_119685205

Ahh I don't know. It is a California class, afterall. I kinda felt that they were getting into too many big deal issues, last season. I prefer the character growth we are seeing here and really feel we are going to need this, when the Rutherford story ramps up.

The_Wanderer · 30-09-2022 2:39pm

Haven't really watched Lower Decks but made a point of watching this today. DS9 nostalgia fest. Loved it. Though Quark sounded a bit off with his voice I thought.

odyssey06 · 30-09-2022 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119685515#Comment_119685515

Yeah I thought that too about Quark's voice ... at first I thought they'd hired a different actor.

Varik · 30-09-2022 3:43pm

Might have been a remote voice recording, instead of a sound isolated echo proof room they'd Shimermans' office and whatever mic they sent him.

Same for the rest of the guest, all sound a bit off.

eadrom · 30-09-2022 4:22pm

They’re 20+ years older than the last time we really heard them in-character too though. While the characters themselves are only a handful of years.

That’ll make a difference.

_Kaiser_ · 30-09-2022 4:24pm

You have to remember that a LOT of years have passed since DS9 wrapped. The actors are a lot older now.

Really good episode though.

Evade · 30-09-2022 5:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119685515#Comment_119685515

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119685750#Comment_119685750

He sounded off to me too, I think it was the lack of Ferengi teeth.

Good episode, nice to catch up with everything. I wonder if Bajor decided not to join the Federation after all or was it still in the works.

TheValeyard · 30-09-2022 5:47pm

I put it down to him (real life) been alot older. Like the way Picard sounds different.

flazio · 30-09-2022 5:55pm

I would agree it's down to the lack of prosthetics.

Fun episode, preferred last weeks but still enjoyed this one.

The Shax Kira banter was brilliant.

odyssey06 · 30-09-2022 5:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119686338#Comment_119686338

Yeah, fair point. I guess I registered it with Quark more because you don't see the aged character, but you remember the voice as it was.

The_Wanderer · 30-09-2022 9:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119686248#Comment_119686248

Armin Shimerman confirmed on twitter today that he wore the teeth for the speaking.

Cookie_Monster · 30-09-2022 9:23pm

That was a great episode, slightly dodgy voices aside.

flazio · 30-09-2022 9:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119687236#Comment_119687236

https://twitter.com/ShimermanArmin/status/1575889250616082438?t=_TjP8WKd3ge2F436dTX2Mw&s=19

Makes sense, doing this wouldn't be all that different to recording ADR.

One tiny niggle, I think this would have been the perfect episode for a title card In Memory of Louise Fletcher and Camile Saviola.

AMKC · 01-10-2022 12:01am

That was another excellent episode. I loved the running joke between Keira and Shax. Loved seeing DS9 again. Who voiced Keira and Quark?

Never-ending it was Armin and Nana they just sounded a bit different si I thought someone else did them but the answers are in the posts above.

Boimler winning at the Dabo lol.

The only think I seen wrong with it is that Cerritos should not have been effected by whatever the Karemma used to Disable DS9.

pah · 01-10-2022 2:32pm

That opening! I was grinning from ear to ear 😁

Stark · 01-10-2022 7:08pm

The opening was perfect. I was laughing and tearing up all at the same time.

That Orion guy struck me as a total dig at Worf. Someone on this forum commented that Worf reminded him/her of an American-Irish person with over the top republican tendencies which was basically the Orion character.

Kira sounded a bit off to me as well as Quark but I guess it's the animated visuals affecting my perception of their voices.

JayRoc · 02-10-2022 7:36pm

Well, that was absolutely fantastic.

TheIrishGrover · 04-10-2022 11:48am

Yeah, that was fun. Thought that Quark's voice was off for quite a bit (In that I thought it was someone else much of the time). I don't know if Shimmerman has done much voice-acting but it is a totally different beast. It's one of the big problems I had with Marvel's "What If?..." series. Some actors just didn't know how to voice act. Johansson was pretty bad, Bosman was pretty good and Honshu was actually pretty hilarious and great. Nana Visitor was very good. Without looking it up on IMDb, I'd say she has VO experience (Look up "I know that voice" for a cool doc on voice acting).

But the episode itself was fun. That "Juuuuust keep circling" gag was fantastic. (And was great to hear the music). Thought Tendi going all ultra-cool at the end was great.

Loved Mariner going around shooting up the place. I totally missed them mentioning Mariner was gay before this season but loved seeing her frustration at that "salon".... I think any one of us would have shot the place up. Hah. And I love this emerging running-gag about Boimler being this (oblivious) lady-killer.

And Morn..... 'nuff said.

Spear · 04-10-2022 11:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119699439#Comment_119699439

Armin Shimerman has done quite a bit of voice acting work, including some famous roles such as Andrew Ryan in Bioshock. He's completely unrecognisable in that role. I thought his first one or two lines sounded a bit off in Lower Decks, but the rest was consistent.

Mariner isn't gay, but rather she did explicitly state she was bi in a past season, with a line about how she liked "bad boys, bad girls..."