Morrissey INEC 24th September

Howard Beale

Anyone else going?

Odd venue choice for his only Irish gig this year but that's Morrissey.

He still has an amazing voice and his back catalogue is second to none so should be a good gig.

Morrissey - Gleneagle INEC Arena Killarney

dinneenp

Ya, bought tickets the day they came out & expected it to be sold out immediately.

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119554888#Comment_119554888

Nah he wouldn't sell out INEC, it's a bit leftfield and far away for many.

I get the impression Morrissey picks his venues and prefers places off the beaten track.

Either way he's a legend of music and we are lucky he still performs with all his health scares recently.

Arnold Layne

My OH is a big Smiths/Morrissey fan.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any accommodation available in Killarney for that night. Is there something else on there that weekend?

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119555091#Comment_119555091

Few hotels there taking in the Ukrainians so there's your answer to that.

How about a Hostel? Loads in Killarney and availability. Only staying there one night like!

finbarrk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119555091#Comment_119555091

There must be something else on, because I booked the day it was announced and rooms weren't that plentiful then

finbarrk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119554888#Comment_119554888

Same as that. Thought it would be sold out in 24 hours. Looking forward to it.

RolandGoose

I'll take my chances with the INEC Killarney over the soulless 3 Arena! For a state of the art, purpose built amphitheater, it is awful!

I don't think Morrissey has the ability to sell the 3 arena out anymore, his last show there had pretty poor attendance. It is crazy to see how his appeal has dwindled from been in the running for the greatest living Britain to struggling to get a label to put his new music out. I'm hopeful for the new album. Dog was pretty good in places, as was High School. A far cry in quality from Tormentors, Quarry and Vauxhall though!

Whipping Boy

Looking forward to this. Not sure on the venue but can't be any worse than the 3Arena, as has been mentioned. Vicar/Olympia would have been better but needs must.

The last couple of albums have been very poor for me - bar them odd flash of brilliance - but the new tunes he's playing these days sound fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpVcvwjT9cU

Stillill42

We're skipping over the fact that he's turned into a bit of a prick so? That may be impacting sales. I'm a huge Smiths fan and have been to see him many times but wouldn't touch him with a barge poile anymore.

Strumms

Saw him several times so I’m not going to shell out that much time, effort, energy and cash dragging my arse from Dublin to Killarney

its about 8.5 hours travelling return from my place to the INEC or general area….

so…

8.5 hours travelling return

120 euros is the best rate for an ok to decent hotel for a night .

100 for two tickets

about 120 euros return each with Irish Fail… Eurostar / TGV prices would be cheaper, the fûck ?

If two of us went… 660 total plus spending money…. Would be the total outlay…..

last couple of records have been very uninspiring …

one plus is that he seems to be on stage for a reasonable outlay of time these days…..

Boooourns

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119567944#Comment_119567944

I was actually a little shocked to see a thread on his gig, he's a horrible pr1ck who has said some real nasty stuff.

Why would anyone entertain him live is beyond me.

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119566273#Comment_119566273

He could get a label in the heartbeat but he wants one that agrees to his terms and not the other way around. His albums still sell well. He's his money made and cares not about being dictated to by labels, he has integrity that way.

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119567993#Comment_119567993

Are you honestly shocked about a thread of one of the greatest songwriters of all time who fronted one of the most popular Engish/Irish bands of all time in The Smiths? I somehow doubt you are 'shocked' to be frank.

He speaks his mind is very blunt and in so many ways it's tongue in cheek I can't believe everyone takes everything he says literally so what you don't like it who cares? Nobody agrees with anyone on everything anyway.

Morrissey has spoken out for the little guy and the gay/lesbian community too, I remember seeing him in Manchester before and there was a HUGE gay and lesbian following at it. Hardly the 'horrible pr1ck' you describe. His music has helped gay community too songs like Hand in Glove weren't necessarily about a woman!

99% of songwriters would kill to have written there is a Light that never goes out or how soon is now. These and other Moz songs are iconic songs that will be played 50 years from now whilst other musicians music is forgotten about. Morrisseys music will outlive him while most musicians the music goes out with them.

Also it's not our job to entertain him his job to entertain us, he is a performer/entertainer after all! 😉

Boooourns

If you can't see what Morrissey has become and how he has turned his back on all the values that made people love the Smiths and his early solo stuff then yeah go spend your money on him, you'll fit right in.

How Soon Is Now

Yup I shall be there got tickets that morning and got hotel sorted week or two before the gig.

Find it so funny how so many people seem to have this view of Morrissey now he's always been the same! Id actually agree with some of his statements ha. I wouldn't take a lot of it seriously though the music is all that matters but unfortunately his solo stuff hasn't been worth much for a good while now!

Always look forward to seeing him live though he's one of the few artists i bother turning up to gigs for at this stage.

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574689#Comment_119574689

I agree he hasn't changed he's always been polarizing and very outspoken.

I mean 2 Smiths albums are called

The Queen is Dead and Meat is Murder, 2 very very provocative statements in 1980's Britain. It didn't just start last week his outspoken nature.

If anything he should be admired for never changing, so manry artists change opinion based on current trends or the media or what the label wants.

Morrissey has always been his own man which is very very rare in the fickle music industry.

How Soon Is Now

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574713#Comment_119574713

My main issue with him these days is I wish he would change his writing style for the better of his music but its never gonna happen at this stage! Every album he has now will have more moaning about random politics than actual decent songs but you get the odd one!

Strumms

His last decent solo record was 2014.. World Peace Is None Of Your Business.

since then, hmmmmmmm

Been some average stuff..3 pretty poor records in a row.

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119567962#Comment_119567962

Welcome to the viewpoint of anyone on the west coast or lots of other places around Ireland

Not just for gigs either..

If you were in Donegal you wouldn't even have the option to whinge about the price of train tickets.

Stillill42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574713#Comment_119574713

I get it it, Howard. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. If you're happy with Moz, knock yourself out. I love the Smiths. Really love them. Those lyrics appealed to so many people who didn't have a voice, who were underdogs, who didn't have a place in society. Now he's openly supporting arseholes like Tommy Robinson. Like I say go, enjoy it but don't be holding him up as some sort of paragon of virtue and idealism.

Got tickets to his gig in London. As much of an odious character Morrissey is, and always has been really, I gotta see him once considering how much I've listened to himself and the Smiths.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574682#Comment_119574682

Kinda telling that you think right-wing bigots can't be gay

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575643#Comment_119575643

It's kinda telling your reticent homophobia tells you all gay men ARE far right bigots. That IMO is so absurd and so hate filled. Just WOW.

OK so show me very very clear examples of gay men and gay groups and gay communities being 'far right bigots' show it in articles or pictures or whatever if you think it exists everywhere. So where is all this 'far right bigotry from gay people?'

I await all your proof.

recyclops

to get back on topic ( a statement made far too frequently in gig threads nowadays)

for those thinking of travelling down flights are 41 quid return which may be a way to go

NewbridgeIR

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119567944#Comment_119567944

”A black pop conspiracy is keeping my music down” was said in 1986

Bengali In Platforms was 1988.

This is not a recent development. However I can easily separate the artist from their opinions so it doesn’t stop me from buying his albums or attending his concerts. Albeit Killarney is too far away to go there & back in the same night.

NewbridgeIR

My Morrissey album rankings. Would be interested to see other people’s

01 Southpaw Grammar

02 Viva Hate

03 Vauxhall & I

04 Your Arsenal

05 Maladjusted

06 I Am Not A Dog On A Chain

07 Ringleader Of The Tormentors

08 Kill Uncle

09 California Son

10 Years Of Refusal

11 You Are The Quarry

12 World Peace Is None Of Your Business

13 Low In High School

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578721#Comment_119578721

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578721#Comment_119578721

The ould amnesia is kicking in again I see. You typed Morrissey was just the other day. Morrissey is clearly gay but very very coy about it.

Back again? Yes heaven forbid someone responds to a thread they created eh! Ironically it's actually YOU who is back again calling gay men 'far right bigots' which to me is incredibly stupid, ignorant and downright absurd. Thanks for the laugh pal. I may keep an eye out for these homosexual far right bigots going around eh! 😉

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578812#Comment_119578812

Southpaw Grammar no 1? Interesting.

For me.

1. Viva Hate
2. Bona Drag
3. Kill Uncle
4. Ringleader of the Tormentors
5. World Peace is None of your business

I do like his newer albums too but they are more hit and Miss. I think World Peace is a great album

NewbridgeIR

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119579427#Comment_119579427

I excluded Bona Drag as it’s a compilation but if allowed, it would be #1.

The only thing I’d change about it is drop Suedehead & Everyday Is Like Sunday as they already appeared on Viva Hate. Maybe replace with one track - I Know Very Well How I Got My Name

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119580544#Comment_119580544

Yawn, says the man who suggests gay men can be 'far right bigots' yet can't provide one single example of it. Not one!

So generally speaking it's safe to to say your assertion is utter utter nonsense.

Still Ill

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119583547#Comment_119583547

Of course they can be. Milo Yiannopoulos being one example.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578812#Comment_119578812

Not sure I could rate but I always thought and still do think Vauxhall & I is basically one of ‘the’ most underrated albums ever…and ‘probably’ my personal favourite…from memory hearing Now My Heart Is Full was one of the first times I thought interested in investing more time into investigating Morrisseys music. Id just been a smiths fan to that point…

I think on Vauxhall, Morrissey’s voice, songwriting and the clever empathetic and intuitive band and the arrangements courtesy of Boz Boorer really come together as an incredible tour de force, it’s pretty sublime from start to end….lyrics and melody, arrangements and musicianship really fantastic throughout.

in my own list I’d probably have Quarry in the top 5…that record always struck a chord with me… he played a brilliant show in Dublin Castle just after that was released and the songs sounded pretty majestic and energetic live.

Mexico, Friday Mourning and it’s Hard To Walk Tall When You’re Small never even made the final cut but it shows show much of a stride he and band were in as songwriters and recording artists when they can release a bonus CD…

don’t make fun of daddy’s voice

its hard to walk tall…

teenage dad…

munich air disaster 1958

friday mourning

never played symphonies

my life is a succession..

I am two people

Mexico…

all appeared on a deluxe two CD version of that album released later…and many were staples of the live set for much of that tour. Jerry Finn’s production is brilliant too.

evani1976

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584103#Comment_119584103

I must seek out that 2cd edition of Quarry....I saw him in Manchester around that time and he was on fire.

I believe Alan Whyte is back in current band, he was his songwriting foil as part of Vauxhall band too.

Strumms

yes Good news Alain being back…Im a massive Whyte fan, love his style of guitar playing and he’s a very accomplished songwriter…just seems to have a knack and clever way with a melody, chorus and middle eight.

I don’t know why but I could never take to Jesse Tobias.. especially his playing on the older songs live, just seemed a bit heavy and ham fisted….

There was a magic with the lineup of Butterworth, Boorer, Whyte, Day, Farrell…

NewbridgeIR

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584103#Comment_119584103

Yes, Vauxhall is pretty fantastic. Basically my top 3 are interchangeable - all quite a bit ahead of fourth place.

I was at the Dublin Castle show for You Are The Quarry. Roasting day; just back from Crete. Agree that some of the B-sides were better than the final album selection. Mexico in particular - and wasn't included on Swords compilation. That Quarry 2CD version is worth getting.

NewbridgeIR

For the reissues, Morrissey messed around with tracklistings.

Viva Hate and Bona Drag - not improved

Your Arsenal - single mix of Tomorrow. Slightly better

Southpaw Grammar & Maladjusted - the former was expanded with four more tracks. Maladjusted got the six B-sides added and a couple of tracks removed (Roy's Keen, Papa Jack). Both albums enhanced by this revisionism.

Interesting Vauxhall & I was untouched.

How Soon Is Now

Seeing as I wasn't allow mention it in the Queen thread I wonder will Morrissey sing The Queen is dead in two weeks? Actually sang it the last time he was in the INEC far as I know? a few years ago in the 3arena as well.

evani1976

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119590167#Comment_119590167

Safe enough in the Kingdom of Kerry not sure about in Blighty atm...wouldn't put in past him though.

How Soon Is Now

Just a heads up for anyone who's getting the train to this gig. Got an email from Irish Rail today.

Iarnrod Eireann Irish Rail wish to advice you that due to engineering works between Portarlington and Limerick Junction on Saturday 24th September 2022 a number of service alterations are in place including bus transfers.

This will cause delays and I cant seem to find any info if this will be going on the Sunday as well.

I'm gonna cancel the train and get a bus no point anymore if its gonna take longer then the bus which is cheaper!

dinneenp

Any support?

OwaynOTT

i think I hate this thread.

RolandGoose

I like Morrissey! 🙂

Howard Beale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119617751#Comment_119617751

Yeah let's get it back on track. For anyone going to the gig there is pre gig drinks in Jimmy Briens Bar beforehand. I'm sure there is a Morrissey fan meet up on the Friday also TBC that one.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119617108#Comment_119617108

I know I engaged earlier but it would be great if we could collectively ignore one individual and move on.

Looking forward to this gig. Found a great website that makes spotify playlists from set lists: https://setify.co/s/63b50a0b

I used to do this myself manually!

OwaynOTT

God no, sure Morrissey doesn’t like Morrissey 😄

Howard Beale

To those interested there is a Morrissey pre gig meet up in Jimmy Briens and possibly one on the Friday too, venue for the Friday night meet up to be confirmed.

Shoplifters of the World unite eh!

RolandGoose

If you could pick one song for Moz to play in Killarney, what would it be?

Might be a change of pace here, and get us back to talking about the gig!

Gotta be Will Never Marry for me, I have always wanted to hear it live. Hopefully with Alain back in the band the set will throw up some old gems, like Mute Wtness, Certain People I Know and Late Night, Maudlin Street! (I know some of these tunes are from before Alain's time, but they have always been personal favorites)

Just over a week to go! :)

NewbridgeIR

I'd like Morrissey to play

Nobody Loves Us

bodhrandude

Is this a gig in the future?

The Nal

Shame hes not playing Dublin. Always great live. Could listen to him sing the phone book.