Lower Decks 3x01 - 'Grounded' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

ilovesmybrick

Lower Decks 3x01 - 'Grounded' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** } Warning: This thread will contain spoilers 

AMKC

That was a good episode maybe not the funniest but some nice Easter eggs in it like the vineyard lol and Historic Bozeman was cool. Lol at Captain Gavin and FNN lol.

corkie

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Grounded_%28episode%29

https://treknews.net/2022/08/25/review-star-trek-lower-decks-301-grounded/

What follows is a hearty and hilarious tribute to Star Trek: First Contact, complete with plenty of imagery and music from that movie, and a guest appearance from the legendary James Cromwell as a tour-guide version of Zefram Cochrane. The ensigns’ visit to Montana showcases this show’s deep knowledge of its lineage, and will surely put a smile on the face of anyone who knows and love this classic TNG movie.

Enjoyable episode.

TheIrishGrover

Wait, what? This has started? WTF am I doing working???!!!

ilovesmybrick

Go on Gavan the pilot, fly free!

The animations for the Phoenix were pretty sweet.

Spear

I did like the big reversal after all that setup even if it does deflate the previous cliffhanger. And I'd forgotten how good the First Contact theme was.

Slydice

Ah that was fun! Really enjoyed the First Contact opening credits music! 🙂

CastorTroy

The one thing I was kinda disappointed in was the Gavin bit at the end. Was expecting to meet him again in a future episode after he had become leader of a pre-warp planet or something.

heebusjeebus

I forgot how good the First Contact soundtrack was. Played that CD so much when it was released.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521755#Comment_119521755

One of my favourite movie scores. That and TWOK are the only two Star Trek ones that are up there with Star Wars.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522588#Comment_119522588

Cnl. Kurtz Gavin would have been good fun.

eadrom

That was alright. Bit too much going on maybe.

breezy1985

A lot more FC and a lot less ST:III than I expected.

I was really surprised we didn't get a "don't call me tiny" reference in the transporter centre.

TheValeyard

A good episode. Good idea and worked well. Nothing special, nothing bad, but worked well. Did like the First Contact callbacks and couple other Easter eggs?

Liked how they brought back Captain Batesmen, good to see he settled in well in the future. Batesmen and Tuvok on the same team, nice.

Admiral Jellico... well, f*ck that guy.

Evade

Pretty middling episode for Lower Decks but still enjoyable over all. Mariner seems to have slid back along the insufferable scale a bit again. LD must really have taken to heart the backlash over the copy paste fleet from Picard, did anyone else notice the ship variety? Akira to chase the forger, Peregrines to intercept the stolen Cerritos, and a runabout to pick up Captain Gavin.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119521741#Comment_119521741

Am I the only one who’s a little disappointed that they caught «Captain Gavan» so early on? I was hoping he’d be a running joke for the season :P But, I guess you can only get so far on a Warp 1 Missile.

Yea, that was very enjoyable. Awesome how they managed to combine First Contact and STIII. I was delighted with the tacky First Contact amusement park they built at Bozeman. Geordie’s description of the place in First Contact would make you assume it would be a tasteful National Landmark, but their subvention of this was just hilarious :)

I was also getting a kick out of the scene with Bolmer bluntly deflecting the advances of the vineyard women. It was a stupid joke, but I kind of enjoyed it. Are vineyard women really into Starfleet officers or something? Maybe Bolmer is part Deltan?

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119527585#Comment_119527585

Ship variety (where practical / affordable) was the norm before that damned copy/paste fleet. They really tried their hardest to make a bag load of Enterprise D models look like 6 different classes in BOBW, and later in First Contact and the Dominion War we got a whole load of types.

I feel this was mostly Lower Decks continuing the tradition of ship variety from the TNG era.

ilovesmybrick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119528034#Comment_119528034

Yeah, I did think Gavan would be recurring, but who knowsm he still could come back!

Evade

If Starfleet has the equivalent of an officer candidate school program Gavin could be a lower decker by the end of the season.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522588#Comment_119522588

Ye I don't think he would have git very far in a warp 1 missile basically. Space is big and going at warp 1 into Deep space would be like walking.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119528175#Comment_119528175

Let's hope so even if he became one of the Cerritos crew.

corkie

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Post says no spoilers but shows this picture in it?

Evade

I did like the touch where Cochrane's hat was sold as a souvenir. Cromwell still sounds good for 82 too.

Stark

Enjoyable enough episode. Not the best but then seasons 1 and 2 also started off slow. Some moments I really enjoyed like the First Contact stuff. The Captain Freeman resolution was quite anti-climatic, I thought the season 2 cliffhanger was a setup for a season long Starfleet conspiracy plot.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119528034#Comment_119528034

Only just copped that the vineyard girls thing could be taking the piss out of the Laris/Picard thing in "Picard".

TheIrishGrover

I enjoyed that a lot. I don't know if it's me getting used to the rapid speech of the characters or if it slowed down slightly but I had no problem this time (Old old man 😀).

I didn't really cop the whole Laris thing. I just thought it was a funny joke about him being totally oblivious. Thought all the callbacks were great. From the first reveal of Boimler harking back to "All Good Things" to the Wesley-stile civvies Rutherford was wearing (As well as the stuff like "Sisko's" etc). The music call back to "First Contact" was also great, yeah.

Loved the extremely dramatic investigation/resolution of the Captain's situation. Thought that was very funny. Reminded me of an episode of Buffy which concentrated on Xander and some drama he had going on with some vampires. In the background you were hearing references to some super-dramatic end-of-the-world type storyline that was never mentioned again.

So yeah, really liked this.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119535965#Comment_119535965

They were high school bully Zombies Xander was mixed up with in Buffy.

Cookie_Monster

Good episode, but felt a little cut down tbh.

I find it hilarious after all the work the lower deckers did, the big boys solved it all easily in the background :D

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119535965#Comment_119535965

That wasn't Wesley style. That was straight up early Jake Sisko.

pixelburp

Good opener; light on laughs in places but at season 3 they have earned the ability to just have a story's beats rest on it's characters' shoulders. Thought the Captain Freeman plot would last longer, but can't complain too much. Just happy to see these guys back; even Mariner was fine, still hyperactive but we know now there's more to it than just obnoxiousness for its own sake.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119536367#Comment_119536367

I do like how they leaned onto the idea that her parents are protecting her Starfleet career. I had assumed before that she was under her mother's command to keep her safe.

Again, it makes me imagine a past were Mariner was a confident career Starfleet officer (who might have made it to Full Lieutenant at one point), but then something so horrible happened that she got banged down to Ensign on boring Cali-class duty. I'm still guessing that something awful happened during the Dominion War, but it could be anywhere else. For all we know she was on the Enterprise E when something serious happened (Riker did know her didn't he?).

Greyjoy

Decent episode but it didn't really kick into gear until they got to Bozeman. Some nice in jokes though they're starting to lay them on a bit thick. The 'ketracel white' hot sauce is a good joke in itself but they literally shove the bottle in the viewers face to make sure you get the joke. I was surprised at how quickly the captain Freeman storyline was wrapped up but I suppose that's the joke of Mariner not trusting Starfleet. I was afraid we were slipping back into the obnoxious Mariner of S1 but they dodged that in the closing moments of the episode.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119536330#Comment_119536330

You are 100% correct. My bad

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119536419#Comment_119536419

I also liked how the big twist was ... the Federation is a good and decent system. Kurtzman's MO has felt aggressively biased towards upending a utopian society that in nuTrek we rarely saw, and I was honestly expecting a plot where Cp Freeman was framed, the Fed is corrupted by a rogue officer, Mariner has to prove her mother's innocence etc etc

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119537157#Comment_119537157

It started long before Kurtzman. Almost every admiral was a dodgy nut case, TNG gave us Bruce Maddox and the Drumhead episode, DS9 had 2 attempted Starfleet/military coups and gave us s31.

The Federation tried to force relocate an entire species and let's not forget the time Joseph Sisko tried to kill the president to start a war with Klingons.

Can't blame people for not trusting them.

TheIrishGrover

Well, let's remember, they will probably dig into those flashes Rutherford got last season so....

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119537209#Comment_119537209

What were the two DS9 Starfleet coups?

I remember the one set in Earth with Paradise Lost and Admiral McEvil.

Cannot remember the second one.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544644#Comment_119544644

On Risa. More a terrorist incident than a coup now that I think of it.

The same episode where I lost all respect for that moron Worf

eadrom

edit:: posted in wrong thread. Can't delete??

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544738#Comment_119544738

Which is why Q is from the future on Lower Decks. Although not sure how the Q perceive time.