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Democracy being slowly dismantled in America and the UK

  • 13-08-2022 10:00pm
    Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭skimpydoo

    Democracy is being slowly dismantled in America and the UK. Two countries that we have a close relationship with.

    Trumps shenanigans including doxing the FBI agents who raided his gaff in Florida. The Republicans are out in large numbers defending Trump and defending the indefensible.

    You have the Tory party out destroying agreements that they agreed to and sign. The penny is also dropping with more and more voters realising when they voted for Brexit they were sold a pup.

    Should we be worried about this?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion

    If more people vote for Trump and he wins, is that not democracy in action.

    Rather than dismantled?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones

    Brexit was a democratic vote and the losing remainer side haven't stopped protesting and complaining since.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones

    They are dead right too.

    Also my point proven . Look at the replies. Posters still not accepting it. But but but the lies.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion

    It's the United States of America.

    More people voted for him Texas, Florida etc so he won those states.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭skimpydoo

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones

    As long as you are happy and not hurting anyone else I say go for it. Enjoy

  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭sameoldname

    Only a few months ago plenty of posters here were just as dismissive of the idea that Russia would invade Ukraine.

    A large proportion of voters in the US believe that the last election was stolen from them because a blonde dickhead told them so. Do you not see the danger in that?

  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5

    UK could be facing into significant civil unrest if the recent Bank of England forecast is correct.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭standardg60

    The rise of ignorance and selfishness. Unfortunately we are starting to see the rise of it here as always follows from the US and Uk.

    Fortunately we don't yet have a party which promotes such thinking, SF has historically harnessed the ignorant vote but are slowly realising that their vote mostly consists of the latter.

  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5

    The right wing have become obsessed with conspiracy theories, based on no evidence whatever, but as you suggest there is far more likelihood if anything that the pro-Brexit vote was dodgy. At the very least, even if there was no fraud around the actual vote, we know that the Brexit campaign was run on the basis of false promises and lies.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,057 ✭✭✭Allinall

    Democracy is being dismantled because people are voting for stuff.

    What influences peoples votes is a different story, but nothing to do with democracy being dismantled.

  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]

    At this stage with trump doxxing the FBI agents who executed the warrant only scum are supporting or trying the whataboutery dance in relation to him.

    As for the UK they have a system that allows an unelected body to interfere with the country, so the bs about the EU was always bs. The corruption in the tories has been well documented so the actions and items exposed in the last few months aren't really a shock except for those living under a rock, and the next election is Labours to lose.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭jill_valentine

    There isn't time to right the ship, unfortunately. The seats up for contention in the mid terms favour the Republicans, and once they have the numbers to cripple Congress entirely then it's all over bar the shouting. America's already had its last meaningful presidential election for the forseeable future.

    There isn't going to be another January 6th though because next election all the safeguards that only just about held last time - electors, contested votes, etc - will give, they've been quietly seeing to it, slotting Q Anon loons into place. And people don't know or care enough about the mechanics of rigging an election unless you can explain it in two sentences, so the illusion of due process is all takes to get away with it, you can see it even in this thread.

    Whoever the GOP chooses for the desk is a formality after that, whatever becomes of Trump himself.

    The future isn't looking very bright for the US - or Europe by extension - I'm afraid.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5

    And how do you expect that will work out for the UK?