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Bray Air Show - DART Doors forced open following delays and discomfort.



  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭cheese sandwich

    Disgraceful from Irish Rail, this happens every time the air show is on but they never learn.

    I wouldn’t go near Bray on either the train or the roads on this day, it’s always a disaster

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980

    What the hell is going on there??

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭trellheim

    service south of Dalkey on stop by the look of it - due to resume at 1700 according to IE twitter

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull

    Looks like passengers on some trains were close to passing out and having panic attacks from what is being reported so forced the doors open out of sheer panic. Seems that information was a bit sketchy from what I have read about as well.

    Never good to be on the railway line but people are rarely rational when they are having a panic attack or cramped with no fresh air in warm weather. Reports on twitter suggest people were held for 30+ minutes outside Bray station with increasing temperature with no air-conditioning working and no windows to open.

    Irish Rail said this afternoon it had no reports of any issues with air conditioning.

    Iarnród Éireann said its trains have air conditioning or openable windows and it has had no reports of any issues with either.

    Irish Rail, earlier tweeted the following, stating that control had alerted drivers of the issues.

  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy

    What was causing the delay in the first place? Going to the Bray airshow sounds like my idea of hell don't know why you'd be bothered going to that with all the crowds and traffic noticed the m50 southbound was bumper to bumper too.

  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull

    From what I've heard there was congestion at Bray station which resulted in one train being at the platform for a fair bit longer than it should have been, which caused knock on delays for other trains having to wait for a platform to become available.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,924 ✭✭✭Princess Calla

    There's another active thread on this topic it has a Twitter link stating 45mins delay and shows a lot of families with very young children walking along the tracks and that the children needed to pee.

  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing

    Saw videos of people breaking windows on trains in Belgium during the week for similar reasons.

    Not excusing Irish rail but its not uniquely Irish either.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭tnegun

    It was the same after the hurling final back to Maynooth packed carriages with no working A/c the only saving was the windows opened and the train wasn't delayed/held much. Even with that several people were in distress and left the train at Clonsilla to get some air.

  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull

    Unfortunately on the hottest days of the summer if I see a 8600 with no windows coming in to the station that is packed like sardines I try and give it a miss if I can because I have been in that position before in some not so nice conditions. At least on an 8100 you can crack open a few windows which is not an option on the newer stock.

    Barry Kenny meanwhile has now said that passengers forced the doors open after 5 and a half minutes.

    “Unfortunately, the train was waiting for 5 and a half minutes when a small group forced open the doors and went on to the track. This meant that trains couldn’t move in either direction, obviously, because they were on the track,

  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb

    how long were they on the train previous to that?

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage

    It is fine to talk of "no problems" with airconditioning, but the evidence suggests otherwise. Public transport should have both temperature and CO2 monitors and a strict requirement to keep these within limits, especially in a pandemic. "we thought it was OK" is not acceptable.

    I very much doubt if the passengers were blocking the track. Trains from Bray could have proceeded past this point at 5kph and allowed this train proceed.

  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭cheese sandwich

    The newer carriages without windows are very unpleasant on a hot day. The air con either seems to be too cold or completely broken

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭Jizique

    Airshow when we are planning to cull 30% of our cattle? I really think our priorities are wrong.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy

    Heard there were problems with buses not operating too. 145 is only every 20 mins on a Sunday so maybe would've been better off having this event on a Saturday and DART frequency is better too. Saw a picture of a Go-Ahead abandoned in a Cul de Sac in Palermo wonder what that was all about.

    I've heard reports that the DART was only stopped for about 5 mins before people forced the doors open which seems poor. I'd understand if was stopped for 15-20 mins but after 5 mins is poor. I've been on a few Darts that were held in Bray for 5-10 mins before the station.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd

    Buses are running, no issues with them it's just to / from the dart station but only a normal Sunday service, no extras on.

    Pretty sure there's never been extra buses on for the Airshow, it's usually darts that are focused on & they just completely fell apart today

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,759 ✭✭✭trellheim

    looks as if lots of people were wandering across the level crossing as well so it took time to get it closed the LC at Bray

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