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Lonely Planet article criticising Dublin as tourist destination ‘doesn’t make for pleasant reading’

  • 22-06-2022 1:40pm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire

    I would ask anyone who is going to post in this thread to consider reading this article first, thanks.

    Seriously what's wrong with the denizens of our capital? Have they no shame? It's bad enough that living in the crime-ridden concrete favelas of Dublin are taken as a point of pride (source: Philly McMahon, Life Magazine, 19/06/2022) but now the international reputation of the whole country is suffering thanks to the grubby, greedy publicans and hoteliers.

    I had to suffer the indignity of visiting Dublin a few years ago and take the LUAS from gross point A to point B. Never mind the fact that it was so absolutely greasy I genuinely wondered if I had fallen into an old chip van, the journey was interrupted by a gang of Dickensian-like urchins throwing stones and hurling abuse at the windows (and passengers), toothless sneers branded onto their freckled, dirty faces.

    The whole city is rotten from top to core and it seems that everybody is complicit in it. From the handsy café owner gouging grannies for five euro cups of tea in his tucked-in XXL Dunnes shirt to the Air BnB slumlords pricing ordinary people out of owning an actual home by charging tourists for a month's mortgage payments for a week's visit.

    It is well known that the people who live in the rest of the country need to pay the same amount of taxation for a massive reduction of services and yet it is all in Dublin that these dystopian nightmares occur. We can, and should, blame the Government (which is based in Dublin) for all of this but I think it's time that the business owners in Dublin take a long hard look at themselves and stop fleecing every man woman and child who comes their way. I'm sick of them and their constant poor mouth act. It's time for the business people to start paying their way.

    Ireland is full (of transphobic racists)




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭Allinall

    What cafe is charging €5 for a cup of tea?

  • And yet Dublin is listed as 7th in their 2022 top 10 cities to visit. Odd, no?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭timmyntc

    Paris is a hole, but at least it has some culture and sights worth seeing. What is there to see in Dublin? The spire? 🤣

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire

    That’s not really a good thing though, is it? Looking at the filth around you and thinking “at least I’m not in Syria.”

    Maybe de Dubz can show a bit of pride in their city that shows more tangible results than roaring at their Gaelic football team or claiming “Croker” as their own.

    Ireland is full (of transphobic racists)


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 35,029 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha

    I was in Bulgaria a few weeks ago. You can just touch in with your credit card. I suspect Dublin Bus are still doing the exact change thing though I think they've a prepaid card as well. Surprised they don't just ditch it.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith

  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭FlubberJones

    Dublin is expensive there shouldn't be a debate about that, its a simple fact. And yes there are TONS of scumbags around, but if you know the city you simply go to "nicer" areas...

    North side I simply avoid when on a night out, during the day it's ok I suppose and if I have to I go there.

    Drinks and Eats... it's South all the way,

    Tourists though don't have the benefit of this and if they wander.... oh dear.

  • Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer

    Your view of Dublin is very different to mine. The facts are quite clear that your "opinion" is a personal one of feelings. You can simply look up details to know Dublin is not the crime and war zone you think it is. If you read the actual article from Lonely Planet is is really not that bad.

    Can you let us know where you live so we know what your daily experience is?

  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭dorothylives

    I think it's a fair description. Less than 1% of hotels have rooms available for tourists, the government have block booked a lot of that, so they can ask what they like for the few rooms that are available. The guy tried to gloss over that by describing it as an increase in tourism post pandemic, it is what it is. Almost 40,000 people have arrived here since January seeking asylum, they have to be put somewhere. The city centre is a dump, there's no culture. The place is full of scum and drug addicts. Come for the price gouging, if you can find a hotel, stay for the drug addicts and roaming gangs of thugs. No thanks. No offence meant to the majority of ordinary non criminal Dublin people.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,528 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    I didn’t hang around in areas where there were prostitutes, I can only relate my experiences, nothing strange about that whatsoever. 🫢

    Barcelona wasnt too bad last time i was there, there was a feeling it cleaned up, when I was there in ‘14 the nighttime revealed a more sinister undercurrent to the city. I was followed by a couple of individuals with the likelihood of being robbed until I took a detour that saved my ass, prostitution in main squares there.

    madrid, I stayed on the beautiful Calle de Moratín twice and Riu Plaza España near Gran Via…. Without problems, without danger vibes, just nice.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer

    You must have been blind. You know where the bear and the honey tree is in the centre of the city? All around that area which is their city centre. It isn't just women either

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,528 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    no, I get my eyes tested regularly… but thank you for that contribution :)

    id probably rather the illegal sex trade as opposed to the undercurrent of violence that has enveloped us here, largely unchecked and undeterred by judges, Gardai and politicians.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,014 ✭✭✭✭Dav010

    Stayed in the theatre district of Madrid, wouldn’t have thought it was a scummy area, but loads of pro’s on the streets.

    Got ripped off going into Barcelona in taxi which brought us on a tour around city on way to hotel, google maps and the return fair confirmed this. Pickpockets everywhere in Los Rambles, couldn’t walk down the street without being hassled.

    Every city has its good and bad parts, if people here want huge wage increases, expect to pay higher prices.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭growleaves

    A month's rent for two nights in a hotel isn't the result of high wages.

    According to indeed pay is €11-14 an hour for a hotel receptionist.

    Sam Goldwyn: "I'm tired of the old clichés. Bring me some new ones."

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer

    You need to back up there and explain what lies I have said. You have an opinion of Dublin and its value but if a person has already been to the cheaper cities Dublin is still unique whether you feel it is or not. There are literally things you can't see anywhere else in the world. I like Paris but it is absolutely filthy to the extent it causes problems for tourists

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Riddle101

    At the end of the day, it all comes back to the government. They don't seem to do anything to change things for the better and seem content with keeping everything as is. It would certainly help if they could start targetting anti-social behavior more, maybe introduce a few new laws that tackle the high cost of living in Dublin or try cleaning the city up a bit more. Without the government's help, things will just stay the same.