Monkeypox = Moneypox?

Dohnjoe

It's probably inevitable there'll be a thread on this. So from the gloop of online conspiracy theory sites, to get the inevitable ball rolling, there's this Monkeypox outbreak scenario from 2021 funded by Bill Gates.

"I n March 2021, the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) partnered with the Munich Security Conference (MSC) to conduct a tabletop exercise on reducing high-consequence biological threats. Conducted virtually, the exercise examined gaps in national and international biosecurity and pandemic preparedness architectures and explored opportunities to improve capabilities to prevent and respond to high-consequence biological events. Participants included 19 senior leaders and experts from across Africa, the Americas, Asia, and Europe with decades of combined experience in public health, biotechnology industry, international security, and philanthropy. The exercise scenario portrayed a deadly, global pandemic involving an unusual strain of monkeypox virus that emerged in the fictional nation of Brinia and spread globally over 18 months. "

https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf

I'm 50/50 on whether this will take off, but worth a gamble

bad2thebone

Here's the preamble...

https://youtu.be/xvqeSJlgaNk

The evil Covid conspiracy didn't work.

Neither did the ebola one. Or the zika one. Or the MERS one. Or the Swine flu one. Or the Bird flu one. Or the Sars one. Or the AIDS one.

But this time, the monkeypox plot will definitely be the end times!

drunkmonkey

No conspiracy, loads of money to be made, markets open in a few hours, fill your boots with SIGA, EBS, CMRX

For an outsider penny bet TNXP, their Horsepox derived Covid vaccine didn't make it in the last race but they might be on to something.

**Buy the rumor, sell the news!!

Yep, I think the conspiracy theorists are conveniently forgetting that we have had outbreaks of all kinds of viruses prior to COVID. So now they're leaping on every virus as proof of evil plots. When nothing comes to fruition, they'll move onto the next virus outbreak as proof.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119101947#Comment_119101947

I know right!

War is going on? buy arms manufacturers stock

Pandemic? Buy vaccine and mask-maker stocks

Big demand for electric cars? Buy Tesla and battery producers stock

It's crazy when you think about it, demand for a product met with supply of that product.

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102003#Comment_119102003

Hadn't thought of the mask makers stocks, they've taken a hammering in the last 6mts, 3M might be set for a bounce today, thanks for the tip! If only there was a way to stop profiteering from suffering it would proably put a lot of conspiracy theroies to bed.

Mark Steyn probably touched most of the monkeypox conspiracys in the one go..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvmvBAZqL9E

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102114#Comment_119102114

So is GBN the latest go to crank source these days since no one takes Fox News and the Daily Mail seriously?

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102123#Comment_119102123

The whole thing is a crank, enjoy the ride, make some money, laugh a little.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102114#Comment_119102114

Thankfully we have mega large companies that could produce vast amounts vaccines and masks and the things we really needed in a relatively short space of time.

Unfortunately there were conspiracy and anti-vax grifters profiteering from the suffering of others and producing nothing but disinfo. I've noticed the individuals who go on about profiteering always seem to miss that one, weird, huh. Almost as if their "outrage" is selective.

whippet

Alex jones is already on the case - he will need to make up something to bring in the dollars to cover the payouts for the last conspiracy. It's supply and demand market forces. He will supply the conspiracy and the minions will demand justification for why their lives haven't quite turned out the way they wanted

drunkmonkey

Praise be the mega large Companies!

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102228#Comment_119102228

Absolutely, you're probably vaxxed, have plenty of masks and are surrounded by all the benefits of goods/services from companies that make money. Hell you probably shop from some mega large company that makes mega profits like saaayy.. IKEA.

Praise be.

Gatling

How does one test for monkeypox .

The good Old PCR test 😜

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102423#Comment_119102423

How else, spin that baby around enough times and you'll find Shergar.

drunkmonkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102377#Comment_119102377

Probably, sure i'd be dead if I wasn't.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102423#Comment_119102423

you mean the test that can detect influenza, tuberculosis, HIV, Ebola and other infectious diseases also works for monkeypox? It is a conspiracy I tells ya and you are smart enough to figure it out. well done.

buzzerxx

A lot of the major AIDS scientists died in the shot down MH17 plane above Ukraine in 2014, also year of Zelensky instalment. Supposedly one had cure for it.

There's a documentary about the origins of aids too, pointing at the smallpox vaccine.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119106885#Comment_119106885

Ahh of course you're an AIDs Denialist too.

Basically anything that's told to you as a conspiracy theory, you believe instantly.

It's a wonder you aren't a holocaust denier or a flat earther as well.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119106885#Comment_119106885

that information is WAAAY out of date. the latest information shows something quite different. It was the ending of smallpox vaccination that led to the spread of HIV. the smallpoxx vaccine suppressed the HIV virus. when the vaccination for smallpox ended so did the suppression of HIV

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100517204405.htm

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119106885#Comment_119106885

+MH17 flight being shot down

+Zelensky

+Aids

+Small pox vaccine "causing" Aids

+Related to Monkeypox

There's a lot to unpack there, I think it comes down to one misunderstanding. Yes it appears there were a lot of scientists on board MH17, many headed to an Aids conference. They didn't literally "have the cure" for aids written down on a piece of paper in their pocket. It's more that many of them were experts and their deaths could have set back international scientific progress on Aids cures.

buzzerxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119107490#Comment_119107490

Your Ignorance doesn't make me a conspiracy theorist.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119111114#Comment_119111114

The fact you keep parroting **** from twitter no matter how dumb and false it is makes you conspiracy theorist.

The fact you keep claiming that there's giant silly conspiracies going on for which you've no evidence or reasoning for makes you a conspiracy theorist.

The fact that you are very ignorant and don't seem to have any critical thinking skills or science knowledge makes it easier for you be a conspiracy theorist. It makes you a very easy mark for grifters.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119111114#Comment_119111114

But you post unfounded claims that were copied and pasted from Facebook posts... That does make you a conspiracy theorist..

buzzerxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119112003#Comment_119112003

You are gullible, stupid, brainwashed or suffer with cognate dissonance or you are just apathetic shills.

bad2thebone

Funny how Bill Gates talked about monkey pox a few days before the first outbreak.

Isn't that such a coincidence, and monkey pox being in meat, and he's researching synthetic meat. Didn't he suggest a coronavirus outbreak in 2019 too another coincidence.

He's definitely a fortune teller, he'll make a fortune out of this I tell ye.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119112341#Comment_119112341

I wish I had your cognate skillz.

Dakota Dan

First case of monkey pox in the republic and Donnelly harping on about vaccines for it already, who’d have guessed. I can’t figure out how anyone could still be buying this crap.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119101959#Comment_119101959

Can you name any of those viruses that got wall to wall media coverage for over 2 years and had strict guidelines put in place?

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102003#Comment_119102003

Yep so crazy that the people gaining are the very ones creating the demand.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119125504#Comment_119125504

The other viruses didn't end up killing millions of even with restrictions. So strict guidelines were absolutely necessary. When it became safe to do so, restrictions were adjusted and eventually lifted.

Also Spanish flu and aids would have gotten substantial coverage during their peaks.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119125525#Comment_119125525

So you can’t name any other virus.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119125563#Comment_119125563

I never claimed any other virus had the same global impact of COVID.... So I'm not sure why you think you're catching me out...

Pinch Flat

I suspect the main protagonist's who profited handsomely from the misinformation and conspiracy nonsense they helped to spread during the covid pandemic are rubbing their hands at monkeypox.

SuperBowserWorld

The main worry is that this virus becomes zoonotic in European mammals. You and me baby, ain't, nothing but mammals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61608384

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119125512#Comment_119125512

Like Buzzer you keep making these really inane comments.

Is there a conspiracy yes or no. If yes, what is it?

No hints, no innuendo, no stupid quips, just spit it out.

Dohnjoe

WHO have declared Monkeypox a global health emergency, so expect it to make a quick return to conspiracy theory forums and sites (was forgotten about for a period while they relatched back onto their staple of Covid and anti-vax conspiracies)

BigRighysteria

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119102626#Comment_119102626

What a post 🤣😂😂😂😂

Strumms

Monkeypox has been very prevalent in Africa over the last decade, it’s not something just made up.

I know for a fact that samples of monkey pox have been in laboratories here for research purposes. Going back over the last decade.. imported in here…

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119379101#Comment_119379101

The conspiracy theorists like to pretend that governments all around the world will use it to bring in methods to "control" people, as well as increase vaccine uptake (vaccines are evil according to them)

rtron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119379101#Comment_119379101

When you say "Imported in here" do you mean labs in Ireland?

It'll be interesting to see the advice WHO get on Thursday.

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119379237#Comment_119379237

And there's also people who like the methods of control that the government's brought in all over the world.

Will people fall for it again ?

Will they be looking for a monkey pox vaccine certificate like they did for the last pandemic?

I don't think they will.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383627#Comment_119383627

And there's also people who like the methods of control that the government's brought in all over the world.

There were limits and restrictions to reduce the spread of the virus.

Who liked them and why?

Will people fall for it again ?

What's to "fall for"?

bad2thebone

Fall for medical apartheid, their limits to reduce and spread the virus backfired. A lot of the vaccinated were spreading it willy nilly anyhow.

I caught it from someone on their 4th shot.

It protected the unvaccinated from mingling with the vaccinated.

That's the irony.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383790#Comment_119383790

Okay. There were limits and restrictions to reduce the spread of the virus.

Who liked them and why?

What's "medical apartheid"?

bad2thebone

Medical apartheid, exclusion and oppression from being able to have the freedom to go wherever due to their vaccine status

People who liked being locked down and petrified of catching the virus liked the lockdowns.

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383875#Comment_119383875

Do you agree with the limit's and restrictions being stopped, or should they have kept the unvaccinated out of certain premises and gatherings ?

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383901#Comment_119383901

Okay, I've noticed you missed the below question so asking again.

There were limits and restrictions to reduce the spread of the virus.

Who liked them and why?

As for "medical apartheid", you think that being unable to travel to a country due to requiring e.g. a Yellow Fever vaccine is "apartheid"? It's political somehow? If so, how?

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119383945#Comment_119383945

No point in feigning ignorance here Dohnjoe. You're sealioning again I see.

The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't work either does getting entanglement in a kafkatrap with each other.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384052#Comment_119384052

These are your personal opinions, I can't read your mind. If you can't answer basic questions or be specific in any way, okay, but not sure what there is to discuss.

bad2thebone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384119#Comment_119384119

Yeah it's superfluous really. Because I can't read your mind either. But I'm sure we've had similar discussion before.

I like to cut through the nitty gritty, instead of going through mundane twoing and frowing.