M7 average speed camera ACTIVE

mikeecho

M7 average speed camera will become active at 7am on 20/4/20

Gardai warn first motorway average speed camera will be operating in a few days

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-warn-irelands-first-motorway-26748230#ICID=Android_IrishMirrorNewsApp_AppShare

www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-warn-irelands-first-motorway-26748230.amp

colm_mcm

Most people have been treating it as active since the start 🤣

chooseusername

Isn't there ASCs on M50 by the tunnel?

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Alkers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948290#Comment_118948290

The tunnel has them, yea, and they are active already

chooseusername

Maybe they'll cause more accidents with drivers thinking they can speed between the cameras

and slamming on the brakes at the cameras.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948627#Comment_118948627

You haven't quite grasped how Average Speed cameras work, have you?

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948713#Comment_118948713

Have you?

Just for you Jim;

https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/average-speed-cameras-how-do-they-work#gref

drunkmonkey

Does anyone know of the Waze/Google Maps speed is the same as the cameras, I can have the cruise set at 120 but the car speedo reads about 127.

JayPS 2288

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948713#Comment_118948713

I don’t think he thinks that way himself.

I think he’s saying other motorists will be thinking that way.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948751#Comment_118948751

Exactly what I take them to be. What are you on about?? The average on the M7 run from J26 to J27.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948791#Comment_118948791

The speedometer is set to intentionally over estimate your speed, so if Waze says 120 then your doing GPS speed is 120. I would imagine there is a bit of leeway built in to the cameras too so maybe 122 or so on Waze would also be okay.

People in the UK used to fly past me straight through average speed cameras. No idea how they got away with it. I think they are mostly inactive in the UK

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948990#Comment_118948990

What am I on about?

OK. The link in the op said they are the first average speed cameras in the country.

I pointed out they are already in use on the M50.

I know the article is about the M7.

My second post about braking at the cameras, you misunderstood completely, in spite of another poster explaining it to you.

Either that or you don't understand the system yourself, in which case I posted a link for you.

I've driven on UK motorways since the 70s, so I know about average speed cameras, variable speed limits and smart motorways.

I've seen plenty drivers braking at the cameras, especially Irish cars on the M4 in Wales, no accidents, fortunately.

knucklehead6

If people are stupid enough to get caught at an average speed camera, then they deserve the points.

Getting caught at a van or garda is one thing, but an average camera is fixed in location, its not gonna be a surprise.

zilog_jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118948791#Comment_118948791

Most car speedometers are designed to over-read, and there will be variation due to tyre wear, etc. Your speed calculated from GPS is more accurate, it is not 100% accurate but still a lot closer to reality.

fryup

is that the stretch between Nenagh and Limerick?

Charles Babbage

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950779#Comment_118950779

I used check the speed on the Garmin Satnav. Is there any handy phone app to just show speed or any way of getting it out of the car navigation system?

It would be good to calibrate the speedo now and again as tyres wear etc.

Effects

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118949909#Comment_118949909

I think a lot of people just don't realise the port tunnel is part of the M50.

Back Home

An Australian story I know but applies here I think.

https://autoexpert.com.au/owning-a-car/2010/11/18/speed-kills-or-does-it.html?fbclid=IwAR2Awj0CeGGKfoNcUkL-DG2aowyjQNrej6daFHmZZm1_wATcyhIcLCH2gP4

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118950947#Comment_118950947

Roughly speaking yes..

There are large signs either side giving advance warning of the zone, so as others have said getting caught by them will absolutely a self-inflicted wound.

Mobile Cameras etc. are different , but anyone caught on these cameras is really not paying any attention at all.

Effects

I just scanned the article, but basically you are trying to say that speeding isn't dangerous, and is fine?

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118951837#Comment_118951837

That's not the point of the article.

"Speed" in and of itself is rarely the actual cause of an accident.

Inappropriate speed is a more likely contributing factor along with dozens of other reasons.

Bland marketing headlines like "Speed Kills" don't make any actual sense and overly focusing on adherence to enforcing speed limits to the exclusion of almost everything else is not solving for the majority of the real reasons major accidents occur.

Someone driving at 130km/h on the M7 on a dry summers day in a well-maintained vehicle isn't really any more likely to crash than another driver in a similar vehicle doing 118km/h or whatever.

Where is the enforcement of all of the other laws that actually cause the accidents?

Are people getting done for tail-gating , for dangerous lane changes , for not stopping at stop signs etc. etc. etc.

The ~5km of R road to my house from the main road has a posted speed-limit of 80km/h - Only a lunatic would drive anything close to that speed on the road however as it is a pretty standard Irish county backroad with sharp bends , obscured entrances and long stretches where 2 cars can barely pass each other safely , but no Garda is ever there stopping the young lads hooning around that road thinking they are the next Colin McCrae - But most of them aren't "technically" speeding because they don't get to 80.

Instead, the Gardai are out on the main N road on a 1.5Km/h long straight with big wide lanes ,large hard shoulders and endless visibility handing out tickets where the limit drops arbitrarily from 100km/h to 80km/h.

I am all for road safety but this obsession with "speed limits" above all else is a fundamentally flawed approach.

mikeecho

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Furze99

I thought motorways were supposed to be safer roads, I don't bother with 120kph much, eats up too much fuel. See people pass by quickly, but not doing much harm in good conditions. Lane hoggers that cruise along in the outside lane now, at whatever speed - no time for those feckers.

Effects

Yeah, sure that's going to work 😂

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118951601#Comment_118951601

You can use Waze on your phone. It is a SatNav app but also shows your speed according to GPS on the screen. I use it all the time.

gorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118951601#Comment_118951601

On android I use an app called GPS Test

eusap

to be fair that part of the road after Roscrea to Nenagh south bound in notoriously bad for accidents, i remember an article in the uk about the M6 motorway and a certain point was an accident blackspot and they blamed it on driver distraction. Drivers leaving Manchester or London would reach this point after 2 hours and get bored and stop paying attention. Wonder is that the reason for the location

IsaacWunder

If the road is dangerous due to sudden hail/rain showers causing ice/pooling, which the authorities claim is the reason for these cameras being installed on the M7 near Birdhill, then set the system up to switch on the average speed cameras only on days where the temperature is below 10C and precipitation is forecast.

Detecting someone doing 130 km/h (the legal speed in most of the EU) on a dry, sunny July morning when the road is quiet isn't going to prevent a single accident.

zilog_jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118951601#Comment_118951601

Waze will show you your speed at all times, and you can configure speed limit notifications. Google Maps will show you your speed only while navigating.

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974603#Comment_118974603

100% agree on Roscrea to Moneygall (rather than Nenagh) which is why I wonder why these are on the Nenagh/Birdhill section.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118974617#Comment_118974617

Better yet, instead of the average cameras (that I have no problem with), they could address the drainage issue or whatever is causing it to be a blackspot.

also, without a variable speed limit there for bad weather conditions then you will still have people doing 120kmh in the rain.