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P&O Ferries to Make a Major Announcement.

  • 17-03-2022 1:32pm
    Registered Users Posts: 26,563 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1

    Breaking News, it would appear P&O ferries have said they are about to make a major announcement.

    Reports suggest they are about to sack their entire UK workforce and replace them with cheaper Labour.

    If true , its shocking.

    All Ferries have been Told to stay Put and further reports, new crews waiting to Take over.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.



  • Shocking if they’re let get away with it. Could turn nasty.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,563 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1

    Confirmed , 800 being made redundant, Existing crews refusing to leave vessels, this is going to get ugly.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭ waterwelly

    Crazy, and yes, I remember something about Irish ferries the same.

    But just recently were stena advertising for Irish staff, which they normally never needed to do.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 75,841 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn

    Yes and the ships all re-registered in Cyprus to cut down on running costs.

  • Registered Users Posts: 75,841 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn

    I was going to suggest that existing staff should take the ships out and scuttle them but that would actually suit the owners in cleaning their hands of the ships and getting the insurance money.

  • From the link I posted earlier

    “P&O Ferries confirmed it had handed 800 staff severance notices, adding that it was losing £100m year on year and its survival was 'dependent on making swift and significant changes'. It preceded the announcement of job losses by dramatically ordering all its ships back to port and kicking off bemused passengers with little warning”

  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]

    sail them east and sell them to india or China. Don#t see Dubai standing up to either

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,563 ✭✭✭✭ Dempo1

    I vaguely recall that, I was doing a lot of travel to Swansea and back in 2010/2012 and preferred Stena by a long shot .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.

  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭ greenfield21

    Old article but Irish Ferries seem to have done it in 2006. What would the pay here be and what laws would they be using..?

    In a statement Irish Ferries said: “As is common practice in international maritime shipping and cruising, Irish Ferries uses the services of expert providers to crew its ships, as it has done since 2006. 

  • I don’t think that all the employees are being let go. It’s got 4,000 employees in total.

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ Donald Trump

    It preceded the announcement of job losses by dramatically ordering all its ships back to port and kicking off bemused passengers with little warning”

    At least it didn't make them walk the plank mid-voyage

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,358 ✭✭✭ Flinty997

    Would those on the ship be subject to different pay and conditions laws. Can they be given terms that would be illegal in the countries they sail to, but are legal where the ships are registered or something.

  • Registered Users Posts: 75,841 ✭✭✭✭ Atlantic Dawn

    Yes it's a strange one, some routes would be profitable, about a year ago Irish ferries started running a ship on the Dover to Calais route which was something they never did before. I think their Liverpool to Dublin and Hull to Rotterdam routes have suffered from big dips in freight numbers as a result of Brexit with lots of companies preferring to avoid the UK land bridge altogether.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭ KildareP

    Yes. Flag of convenience is the term.

    Irish Ferries did something similar in 2006 - you'll notice all their ships are registered in Limassol and fly the Cyprus flag.

    They therefore only have to adhere to the laws and regulations of Cyprus - one immediate benefit being that Cyprus has no legally defined minimum wage for example.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    A guy on sky news says private security was deployed wearing balaclavas while carrying tasers and handcuffs. They were seen carrying and escorting people from the ships. What’s the issue, will they not be getting paid severance?

  • Registered Users Posts: 33,524 ✭✭✭✭ BorneTobyWilde

    Makes no sense, ships are full, especially with Trucks and Freight, just put up the prices a tad so that you turn a profit, what alternative would shippers have, drive their trucks into the sea to see how far they get.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭ Suckit

    Many customers being interviewed on Sky News.

    The owners (probably already mentioned) of P&O are one of the main shareholders of Freeports in UK, which apparently gives the UK Government very little room to force their hand.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,812 ✭✭✭✭ bucketybuck

    I don't pretend to know all the financial details of P+O Ferries, but it wasn't covid that hurt the freight industry last year, it was Brexit. I know first hand that Covid and all the home deliveries led to bumper years for a lot of people, but Brexit and all its bullshit with customs paperwork and duties was a huge factor in changing the supply chains into Ireland, and freight dependant ferries obviously suffered because of it.

    The point being that covid has gone but the Brexit problems have not, which means that last year very likely may not be exceptional at all. For example, for our own company we have solid plans to move our supply chains to be direct from France to Ireland cutting out the UK landbridge altogether. We are hardly unique, and if I owned a ferry operating from Larne or Dublin right now then I would be very concerned about the future.