On Board Diagnostics Port Obstructed - NCT Advisory

mactheknife19

Had this as an advisory on a NCT (151 Nissan Qashqai). No idea what it means, can any one advise.

Car still Passes, but obviously want to make sure its not something as an issue in the future. Is it something that can be fix easily on the next service.

Harcrid

Sounds to me like they could not get access to the ODB port to run their scan. The ODB port is a connector that you connect a scan tool to, to read information from the cars ECU. On the Quashqai its behind a panel below the steering wheel, so maybe they didnt know this and just couldnt find it. Have a look yourself and if you can find it then no need to worry about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpIbZIvXTi4

mikehn

OOPs just saw this. Why would access to the OBD port be a requirment for the NCT, ???. I thought the purpose of the test was to ensure that the vehicle was in a roadworthy condition at the point in time of the test. I know that people have remapped their cars to improve economy. BHP, ect. but that should not impact on the roadworthiness. If remappimg affects the emmissions then surley that is supposed to be picked up at the exhaust tailpipe analysis. The NCT test does not guarantee that after leaving the centre that you may not have a catastrophic failure. As far as they are concerned once you are out of the door thats it. So are they now changing the narrative in that they are checking the car for something that might be wrong in the future.

Neilw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118726925#Comment_118726925

There are new rules coming where cars will fail if emissions systems are disabled or show errors through diagnostics, things like egr, dpf. The will also be checking for errors in abs systems through the obd.

At the moment it’s a fail advisory as the test isn’t fully implemented, the NCT are still in the trial stages.

purplefields

For me, I'd rather that my car did not have all of these diagnostics features. It's just more stuff the NCT crowd can fail you on, which is a pity.

My last NCT had a problem with a tyre pressure advisory notice. There's nothing wrong with the tyre pressure, but the sensor can be wrong.

I'd like to totally disable all of this stuff, because of the NCT.

BronsonTB

@mikehn

NCT info on changes directly in relation to odb port testing on the NCT test...

https://www.ncts.ie/1157/

1. OBD Testing

An On-Board Diagnostics System (OBD) is a computer system inside a vehicle, that tracks and regulates a car's performance. It collects information from sensors inside the vehicle, to alert the user to a problem, often before it becomes a major issue.

From the 21st June, OBD testing will become an inspection item in the NCT. It will be introduced on a phased basis. Initially, when an OBD error code is detected it will result in the vehicle receiving an “Advisory Pass”. Then, from early 2022, when an error code is detected, this may constitute a reason for “failure”.

The inspection is quick and easy, the NCT Vehicle Inspector will plug the OBD scanner into the vehicle's OBD computer port known as the DLC (data link connector). This port is usually located under the steering wheel but may also be found in the glove compartment of the vehicle.

This OBD scanner will quickly indicate whether or not error codes exist, and it also helps and alerts the Vehicle Inspector to possible defects within the vehicle.

In order for the NCTS to conduct the inspection, we ask customers to ensure:

• Their glove compartments are unlocked and clear of personal belongings before their NCT.
• That any devices using the OBD port in the vehicle are removed in advance of the NCT.

The OBD scanner will scan the OBD system for:

1. Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)

Using the OBD scanner, the Vehicle Inspector will verify that the VIN read by the OBD scanner matches the number on the vehicle. While a difference will not be a reason for failure, the OBD VIN reading will be recorded on the VIR (Vehicle Inspection Report) issued to the customer.

1. Odometer Reading

The Vehicle Inspector will record the odometer reading at the time of the test. They will also verify the reading using the OBD scanner and customers will be alerted to both readings on their VIR report.

1. Electronic Braking System (EBS)

Any error code associated with the electronic braking system will be recorded on the Vehicle Inspection Report (VIR) provided to the customer following their NCT inspection.

1. Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)

Any error code associated with the antilock braking system will be recorded on the Vehicle Inspection Report (VIR) provided to the customer following their NCT inspection.

While, initially, vehicles with error codes will be recorded as ‘Advisory Pass’, the NCTS strongly recommends that any error codes be addressed by the vehicle repairer. However, the vehicle will not need to return for re-inspection, for these items alone.

From early 2022, should certain error codes be detected, they will constitute a reason for failure in the NCT and an NCT certificate will not be issued until the items are rectified and a pass result is achieved.

We recommend you liaise with your local garage/ mechanic who should be equipped with the necessary diagnostic equipment to perform this scan in advance of going for an NCT.

smuggler.ie

According latest manual, reasons for failure applies from 1 January 2022

(f). System indicates failure via the electronic vehicle interface.

(g). Communication failure with the electronic vehicle interface.

https://www.rsa.ie/docs/default-source/services/s4.7-nct/nct-tester-manual-june-2021.pdf?sfvrsn=4cddfe90_5

Capt'n Midnight

7.1.5. AIRBAG(S) - (b) System indicates failure via the electronic vehicle interface.

What's the story now on black tape covering airbag warning lamp ?

Atlantic Dawn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118727422#Comment_118727422

They check for the light coming on when turning on the ignition.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118727422#Comment_118727422

Now black magic tape maker must install the fake OBD2 and make a virtual black network. Nothing impossible, just the next black magic evolution. Not for me, it is cheaper to fix the car than make the problem "disappear". Funny people these magic people