Suspect is 'A white male in his 40s with an Irish accent'

Atlantic Dawn

I see a crime has been reported in Kilkenny this morning and the Gardai are looking for a white male in his 40's with an Irish accent. Is this a new era of policing or is it just because it's a white Irish male with an Irish accent they are looking for, I've never seen this used in the last 20 years since PC arrived on these shores. I welcome it if it's how all future crime is reported and not just those by white males with Irish accents.

“The male is best described, at this time, as a white male in his 40s with an Irish accent.”

https://www.thejournal.ie/kilkenny-johnstown-assault-5669479-Jan2022/

“The male is best described, at this time, as a white male in his 40s with an Irish accent.

https://www.independent.ie/news/another-horror-story-shock-as-young-woman-17-escapes-after-attack-by-man-while-out-running-in-kilkenny-41296798.html

Gardaí say the man who assaulted the girl after approaching her at the scene is "best described, at this time, as a white male in his 40s with an Irish accent".

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2022/0131/1276921-kilkenny-assault-garda/

celt262

Found that strange especially with information that does be giving out about other suspects been very vague when there not Irish.

Fandymo

Nothing strange about it. If a suspect is Irish they’ll be described. If a suspect is foreign, there will be no information given. It’s not a coincidence.

Fred Cryton

Funny how they went very quiet about the nationality of the suspect in the recent high profile case in Athlone.

Didn't fit in the with the "change the culture" and bash all Irishmen narrative.

John Doe1

'A white male in his 40s with an Irish accent', if you were to listen to some sectors of society, he should be arrested for that alone.

Also, it would surely be a lot more useful to use this detailed description when talking about non-Irish, non-white suspects as they are a minority and therefore the description would be more likely to identify a culprit.

It is almost like there are vested interests who want to hide reality if it is counter their position.

NSAman

It’s blatant racism. Pure and simple! White + Irish = report. Foreign born / different skin colour = no report.

DontHitTheDitch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562227#Comment_118562227

The suspect is male, we are also looking for information on a bicycle which is black with distinctive green forks, here's a photo of it and we have a still of the bicycle on CCTV making its way around the town.

Any more details on the suspect?

Well we are currently of the belief that he had two legs and at least two arms.

SEPT 23 1989

I thought the only specific they gave out was a description of his mode of transport

"at this time". Expect the description released will change at about the time the guy is charged

Mwengwe

Who cares, hope they find him.

Kermit.de.frog

Seriously doubt you'll ever see a description for the perpetrator of a serious crime in Ireland as "a black man, in his 40's, with a Nigerian accent", for example, not in public anyway. White Irish man, Irish accent ok.

Brucie Bonus

Maybe they were getting ahead of the online racists? Not that there's any here about... 😎

Pussyhands

It's hilarious really. A high profile case the other week released a description of a man of just his tracksuit colour!

Man with dark skin with eastern european accent would filter out a lot more man than "White man in his 40s with irish accent."

Im more concerned they catch him,rather than description given

A 17 year old girl attacked,while out for a walk,garda helicoptor scrambled in the search for him....must been a serious enough attack,and hopefully victim is ok,

last thing country needs is another young woman killed going about her day

anewme

More interested in taking offence than any concern for the victims.

Pathetic.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562485#Comment_118562485

Completely agree with the sentiment, but you've missed the point here.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562518#Comment_118562518

Who says one can't/doesn't have both.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562518#Comment_118562518

Might be more useful for the victims if a full description of their attackers was given regardless of their nationality

ParkRunner

Justice is blind, if it’s socially acceptable

Tell me how

Two outraged threads on the topic of race/nationality in one day.

Great way to start the week for some.

animalinside

What a farce!

The line by Chief Wiggum "The suspect is driving a car and he is not wearing a hat, I repeat, the suspect is not wearing a hat." springs to mind. 🙄

I mean white male with an Irish accent is just taking the piss, all I can think of is that someone was maybe forced to describe him. What a kick in the shins for the poor girl and her family.

irishproduce

I picked up in this also when I seen the article earlier. Before I knew anything of this thread.

I'm delighted so many others picked up on it too.

To those who say that posters are missing the point, i.e. a young girl was assaulted, yes you're correct and hopefully they catch him.

However posters have to be permitted to call out this clearly biased carry on as well and sharply criticise it. Because it shouldn't be allowed to go unnoticed

Starfire20

hilarious. A suspect gets described as "male, white with an Irish accent" and the usual suspects take to social media to decry the collapse of Irish society, claim victim-hood and engage in whataboutery.

i guess this is whats meant by "male fragility"

Jaysus any white Irish 40 or so year old is a suspect then?

olestoepoke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562684#Comment_118562684

A woman near where I live in Balbriggan was attacked in broad daylight by two African Irish guys, unprovoked attack, slashed her with a knife. The media were afraid to say they were of African decent. "Youths" was how they described them.

animalinside

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562684#Comment_118562684

Ah well I'm as anti-sjw as they come but I am sure they may very well identify him as black male 40s with an African accent in that situation. Let's not start looking for stuff out of nothing, sjws give us more than enough fodder as it is.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562772#Comment_118562772

Less hysteria please.

Not sure what your problem is? You said it was careless and I agreed with you.

Not sure what you are getting at here.

Mad_maxx

RTE stopped identifying travellers when they are involved in crimes yet disclosing the ethnicity is OK here ?

JustJoe7240

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562772#Comment_118562772

Genuinely unsure if this is satire or not, I was wondering what murder in Kildare you were speaking about also

ParkRunner

I was thinking that alright. If the victim believed the person had a Traveller accent would it be reported, I very much doubt it

Atlantic Dawn

The problem here is that we are either going forward with the skin colour and rough regional description based on the voice heard for all suspects Gardaí require assistance for or we have none at all, there's no midlde ground allowed in a civilised country. A policy of casual racism race based reporting used on the suspects skin colour or origin can't determine whether we can only say skin colour and origin when it's an Irish white suspect we are looking for.

Beechwoodspark

Yeah myself and the better half both commented that the description seems a bit off considering other notable occasions when there was

damn diddly squat all

of a description given about suspects

strange one.

NickNickleby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562801#Comment_118562801

Right. I'm going to do the right thing here and treat your post as it NOW appears. However, originally what displayed in your post was a paragraph accusing me of no care for the victims , but rather only interested in point scoring. So I reported that post immediately.

If it transpires that what appeared on my computer was mystically typed by boards or worse my own laptop, or was some sort of amalgam or your polite post and another (interestingly none of the other posts contains the now missing words), then I will advise mods that I have made a serious mistake and apologise to you here in the thread.

I think its better if we proceed in that more polite vein.

NickNickleby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562790#Comment_118562790

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562790#Comment_118562790

Well now, that's definitely a case of cowardly reporting.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562857#Comment_118562857

I'm not getting into tit for tat with you here.

Someone last week started a thread on Ashling and actually mis spelt her name. Now you got mixed up with where actually happened. It does come across as careless and your apology read a bit oh well, by putting the County in Caps, as if it does not matter. Not sure if thats what was meant, but it certainly reads that way.

NickNickleby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562830#Comment_118562830

Its alright Joe, but you will see that I have responded further in the thread. When Anewme's post originally displayed on my laptop, it contained a lot more than it does now. So I reported it. But now the post no longer contains the offensive comments, and there is no 'edited' highlighted on it. So I'm assuming its a technical glitch of some sort . I'm going to see if I can retrieve my Report and add that to it.

As fear of discrimination on any grounds whatsoever becomes complete the description given will be “attacked by human being”… except maybe if it were eg, a dog attack and the animals rights brigade come on board (and I’m an animal lover) it will be “attacked by non-flora species”.

Faugheen

If there was no description of the attacker then there would be immediate assumptions of who they are on here.

Before any of the bedwetters start, no not everyone, but some.

Whenever someone from a different country is charged, there is very much usually a description of where they are from if they aren't from here.

growleaves

Suspect is hatless. Repeat: hatless.

reclose

Did they assume the perpetrators gender?

WrenBoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562786#Comment_118562786

I admire you sticking to the playbook even when the double standards are so glaringly obvious.

Pussyhands

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562953#Comment_118562953

No one is charged here though because the person has not been caught. Just like the attacker wasn't caught the other week yet all we got was a grey tracksuit description! And that was a murder case ffs.

Beechwoodspark

So can we take it now that the guards will be issuing these descriptions from now on (when they have details to give)

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562888#Comment_118562888

Not really, youths is a catch-all phrase for delinquents. As for the question itself, the description is odd but it may be aiming to head off the leap to the furriner did it, as with that Romanian man they mistakenly picked up for the Tullamore murder.

Pa ElGrande

Well that narrows it down to 32 counties. 'dey didn't say which accent. I think it could be my neighbour, same age profile, born and raised in Belgium and speaks fluent Dublinese without a hint of a regional Flemish accent (not that I can tell the difference between regional Flemish and Dutch accents.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhLdKJnY194

Richard Hillman

I remember a teenager went missing around the Blachardstown area a few years ago. Age, height, clothes, runners, were given. They were afraid to say that the kid was black.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118563657#Comment_118563657

Don't they usually attach photos to such descriptions?

GreeBo

I'm going to out on a limb and say the reason they dont give out details that would significantly reduce the number of suspects is precisely because some internet sleuths would believe that it just has to be the Nigerian guy they saw earlier in a tracksuit, so its better to beat the crap out of him now rather than inform the police and let them do their job

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562567#Comment_118562567

no you didn't

xzanti

Surprised they'll even assume the culprits gender at this stage.

World has lost it's mind.

TomTomTim

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