Best apprenticeship to do

2018na

It’s a a bit mad alright and I have to admit I am a spender. I love farming because I was lucky enough to work on neighbours farms in my youth. Couple of lads I went to school with have an 80k and 60k single farm payment. I have a fantastic partner and no kids and of those two facts I am really glad

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571518#Comment_119571518

Without trying to be ignorant but how the hell do you have nothing to spare in a month with no mortgage or kids, unless you or somebody belonging to you had expensive ongoing health issues, or there is something else..otherwise I don't understand how you are not saving something at least.

I can only dream of taking home 1100 a week..its only in the last year I'm earning more than 600euro a week and I have bought my own house and still a fair chunk in savings. Not married, don't smoke and lived at home for good few years but still

ruwithme

Yeah, some might believe themselves to be well off today, 6 months time, who knows with interest rates rising this month, esb next month,to many things to mention really.

Will be a "batten down the hatches " period, if it isn't already here for the many.

Consumption worldwide of all things to slump.this could last year's.some trades more insulated than others in this.

Less potential for overtime, some shifts even dropped in factories. Good salaries quoted above could diminish quick.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571615#Comment_119571615

My wages used to always vary. The pay day after Christmas or after holidays always bought reality to what you would earn if the allowances were not there. Therefore I always worked on the assumption these weeks were what I really had to live off.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571518#Comment_119571518

Well you want to reconfigure your lifestyle. You are probably a maximum of 15 years from retirement. Any of the external trades ( especially plastering and Blocklaying especial but similar with carpentry to an extent) get harder to keep at as you get into your sixties

I hope you are making a pension contributions not dependent on the trade scheme. If not you would want to be outting 200/ week into one

Mooooo

Electrical or plumbing I would imagine. Lads crying out for apprenticeships and they tend to be consistent enough in terms of always being needed, with the caveat that the same as everything work ethic is the key

yosemitesam1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571811#Comment_119571811

Are lads quoting taking home as after tax or gross earnings? Sounds like not everyone is on the same format

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573644#Comment_119573644

He quoted take home of 1k gone to 1.1k now.

Girly Gal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119564968#Comment_119564968

She should look at doing an electrical & instrumentation apprenticeship with one of the large contractors like Kirbys, Suir or Mercury, they are pushing big time to get women into engineering type roles, after the apprenticeship, they would probably actively encourage her to progress on to do part time college courses which they will fund and then onto an engineering role or management, plus would always have the trade to fall back on. Also the guys onsite will step in and help with any of the physically demanding jobs, less likely to do that for another guy. The hardest part would be getting used to working with predominantly men, while there are more women onsite than before, they are mainly in engineering, EHS or management roles, not many on the tools. The E&I apprenticeship would open up a huge amount of opportunities in the future.

yosemitesam1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573661#Comment_119573661

If he has 1,100 a week after tax and house paid for, what would someone have to earn gross to equal that? €80ish k? And have nothing leftover at the end of the month...

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573799#Comment_119573799

80k is equivalent to a take home of 1k/week. Now TBF some of the wages in the 1k take home may be in expenses such as a meal and travel allowance

In general the building trades need considerable flexibility as where you work changes regularly and could incur travel that is costing you anything from 1-200/week. Most trades people work six day weeks at present

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573799#Comment_119573799

Like I say I can only dream of earning that kind of money I'm my job, unless lads are talking gross figures like you say. Brothers takee home is around 1350 a week, but he's in a management role with plenty of stress and responsibility..his gross I think is just north of 100k.

Building trades are seriously overpaid in my view but I might only start a row now.

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571811#Comment_119571811

Exactly my thoughts reading that post too.

Like yourself I’m not trying to be ignorant but anyone with €1,100 a week take home, no rent, mortgage or kids, and has nothing left at the end of the week needs a serious rethink of their lifestyle.

2018na

To explain a bit better. I get 1100 take home per week. Travel to Dublin every day. Ford transit 350. Which is now paid for. 161 model with high miles on it now. Have it from new. At one time was costing about 550 per month. Diesel cost at it’s height €163 to do 7 journeys. There is 10 in a week. Two tolls on the road €9.20 per day unless you avoid them which probably use more diesel. Seriously expensive show to run and also always spending money on renovating the place. So that’s why I go through 4400 per month 😁

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574024#Comment_119574024

I was doing 1000km avg/week sometimes more in my first year in the second half of it i put away €130/week god i lived tight for those 6 months however it wasnt costing me €60/week in fuel and with lockdown i wasnt socialising much either. €70 of that €130 was going into my own savings and i could use it to dip into for car repairs and unexpected bills but the other €60 went into the Christmas club i couldnt touch that and it was mainly done as a guideline to show what i was saving giving up the fags that year.

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573799#Comment_119573799

Think i worked it out before it was €85k to bring home €1k/week.

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119573955#Comment_119573955

How do you reckon that just out of interest?

Girl Geraldine

Mechanic is a dead end trade. The lowest paid too. It's peanuts. And the work is filthy and unhealthy. Your back will be fucked by the age of 40.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574467#Comment_119574467

Bringing home e1100 a week is gonna cost his boss 100k a year roughly. That's before his boss puts his fixed costs + profit on that worker. Would he have him into say intel at 130-140k a year. It doesn't seem to sustainable to me to be honest. (Best of luck to the poster getting it btw)

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574785#Comment_119574785

They are the rates that are set and agreed upon by the unions and employers. I have no guilt booking for my hours because most likely the employer is charging you out at two or three times the rate never mind "dead men" or day works on top of it. My employer has a fancy Audi jeep a class of a Range Rover a few bikes and whatever else theres absolutely no fear of them if they werent making money they wouldnt be at it. There was a b#tch in the office with the attitude us apprentices were taking home too much a while back and took it upon herself to decide certain rates we were getting all she did was make herself look a bigger egit at the end of it all.

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575029#Comment_119575029

I’m listening about the bitch in the office since I started working 25 years ago. Every company seems to have one 🤣

Pinsnbushings

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575029#Comment_119575029

They were driving them and helicopters to the galway races during the boom too and look where it got the country..the cost of property and building houses is crippling to an awful lot of business particularly in rural Ireland.. BTW I absolutely don't begrudge yourself getting it I just think its hurting competitiveness, it's all stemming from the intels etc of the world and if something happens there, what happens?

Welders,fabricators,mechanics,fitters outside of the multinationals, will all be lucky to take home 550-600..every bit as skilled work as carpentry or plumbing..that's all I was saying

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575463#Comment_119575463

The money to be made is in maintenance,I see local shed builder here is nearly gone entirely to maintenance work in factories

An hour downtime could easily cost 100K in any reasonably sized factory, these usually aren't run towards cheapest option as regards maintenance,so lads doing maintenance can by and large charge what they want (within reason),so long as it gets done is main thing

People tend to underestimate how profitable factories are,I know lad was at a management meeting for the main factory in dungarvan,and management were fretting,and were launching maintenance plan,due to the factory made 6million less profit than year before due to downtime ...went from 178 million to 172 million

Dinzee Conlee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119571615#Comment_119571615

Are you saying you are getting close to 85k as a third year apprentice? That seems mad money…

I find it hard to believe that’s standard pay for an apprentice is it? Or have I picked you up wrong somewhere?

More luck to you for getting it @carrollsno1 I hope you enjoy it… 🙂

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575414#Comment_119575414

A green eyed monster

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575710#Comment_119575710

New rates are €19/hr for third years in the new year the ratecat the minute is about €18/hr i did a 40hr week as a third year before this off the job phase in the workshop i took home about €650 add in 8hrs extra that would be done on site at €28.5/hr is €228 gross be conservative lose 50% to tax brings you up to €764 add in youre lodge @€181 brings you up to €945 take home thats before any Saturdays are worked. A few of us in FAS at the moment were talking about it one day and were even finding it hard to believe thats what were going to be on in a few months i can honestly say i hadnt a clue what the rates were like before i started and its been an eyeopener since i started. @Dinzee Conlee as for enjoying it i surely will i gave enough time in first/second year listening to self entitled qualified lads who never had enough and never stopped complaining about what they didnt have to realise what they actually did have so im definitly going to make the most of it. Or maybe i could just go like a few lads before me and see can i take it with me 🤔

farawaygrass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119576585#Comment_119576585

You still farming away while doing the apprenticeship? I work in a local place and the money is only average but it ties in well with the farm. I kinda see myself as farmer first and job second, but if I was on the kind of money you mentioned it must be hard to spend time farming too

AnF Chuckie egg

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119564968#Comment_119564968

Wouldn't go along with the recommendations for Electrical and Instrumentation. They are not Electronic engineering, vastly different. She more than likely knows the difference. My two cent would be to get back on to the University about the accommodation. Check out Donedeal, there's a good few places available now as it's that time of year.

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119575463#Comment_119575463

Theres two towns nearby here that has lots of fabricators/welders on the money you quoted there, there is a generally a reason they are working there. Theres a clique between companies that basically have the rate set between themselves so lads feel like they have no option but to stay. Ive a close relation working for one of those companies hes a real company man there for the guts of 40 years now but he cant move anywhere else as he has no papers like the majority of the lads working there. GOs are getting €18/hr with our crowd and lodge if there on site and theres one lad getting €20/hr.

FintanMcluskey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119574694#Comment_119574694

100%

Back to the OP, anyone who got 580 points in the leaving would be ill advised to start an apprenticeship IMO.

If at all possible try to complete a degree IMO. The apprentiship is a useless step to one side. For someone with such ability it's better to do an electrical engineering degree and study topics like vector shift in power generation as opposed to pulling cables through conduit for the first 18 months working as an apprentice.

I've seen it first hand at work, a middling capable engineering college graduate beats a middling capable qualified apprentice, certaintly in our line of work which would be GMP environments. The college degree is worth more than the trade equivalent.

carrollsno1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119576611#Comment_119576611

No ive too much on without it at the moment really id give a hand if the father was stuck but i made an effort to work on it some bit when i came home first but it was a constant uphill battle trying to work with the auld fella in what was my time off i.e. weekends and evenings. The long term plan is still to head back to Australia when im qualified and the auld lad is talking about retiring or scaling back but hell still be talking about it or waiting for a scheme to come in to cull the sucklers in twenty years time so im wasting my time there at the moment.

If i was to go farming part time i never thought id be saying it but id be sticking to the sucklers i reckon and try work to build a system where all is required outside of calving is an hour in the evening all going well. The auld lad could be out till all hours in the summer slobbering away i remember one night the summer i was home first i looked at the phone and it was after 10pm i just said to him what the **** were we at all evening? Tell me what we actually achieved, absolutely **** all. We werent fencing dosing or doing anything constructive just pricking around was all that doesnt last if youre trying to work off farm at all.