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Listenership figures (JNLRS) just out : Disaster for RTE



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh

    It would be more likely that she would be biding her time rather than biting it!!

  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭JJKC

    It's always pointed out how Gerry Ryans death caused 2fms weekday listenership to collapse but it's never pointed out that axing Ireland's biggest jukebox was what caused weekend ratings to collapse. Daytime weekend shows only fell below 100k when the jukebox was removed from the schedule and they've hardly recovered 7 years on.

  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭nomoedoe

    Id listen to Tracey Clifford and Jenny Greene most days and there is constant ads on for the breakfast show ,just from listening to the ads i feel like throwing the radio out the window!, Doireann should of been given a chance on her own it can’t be any worse than the drivel that’s on it now.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭RINO87

    It's funny you mention Tracy and Jenny here when the poster above mentioned most DJ's (or presenters...) not having their own unique style anymore. I have found Clifford and Greene DEFINATLEY have their own style, and must have some input into their playlists, which is very very rare on daytime radio. Maybe its why I like Tracy's show and find it to be a breath of fresh air, as I said in an earlier post.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭radiotrickster

    This is a fantastic point. The only breakfast show I can think of that's going at the moment with a zoo format is on Capital but the programme is anchored by Roman Kemp and really, it's his show with two additional presenters. They all have very clear roles, the links are structured and each presenter knows when to hop in and out.

    With 2FM's breakfast, I was expecting that it was similar where Doireann was the anchor and the other two were co-presenting but she would lead. But whenever I've listened, it's always seemed to be Carl that steers the ship but it seems messy rather than structured. I do believe that they all think the show is better than it is and so it's not going to change either.

  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Just Some Young Lad

    I am going to dig a grave for myself here but my rationale is:

    • Two stations is enough state controlled media through any one medium. I do not believe in overloading of "state-approved" messages. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-vax or anything like that. I just don't like when we see the state use it's monopoly in a negative way, such as when, on TV they didn't invite SF to the debate. (I'm not in the SF camp either but I digress.)
    • Competition breeds innovation and helps to advance technology and talent. I'm no free-marketer but this is definitely a proven theory. I think that if Lyric and 2FM were done away with then it would free up a listener base that could then transfer to the private stations and help to increase the competitiveness of the market. It could result in more of market for newer private stations.
    • I'm a believer that the cost of the TV license, that funds these stations, is too high for the quality of entertainment that we can avail of. I would prefer to see these stations "de-funded" and all of the top talent that they have spread across the stations brought together in one place.

    It's not from a dislike of Lyric and 2FM. I just think that the Irish public could probably receive more for their money.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands

    Yeah but does Clifford talk about sex, ridin', the shift???

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭Furze99

    Broadly agree re 2FM - let it go from RTE radio, plenty of options out there. Agree that RnaG is niche but a useful service for a national broadcaster. As for Lyric, who else would you see stepping into that space from a commercial POV? It would be a poor return if that type of radio simply disappeared. What RTE need to do in terms of radio is to cut the pay of their so called 'stars' and other high earners and/ or let them go.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,130 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    Do you think people were going to label you anti vaxer, Sinn Feiner or Free Marketeer if you did not make those defensive caveats?

    Only a small part of the licence fee (which is the same price since 2008) goes to 2 FM, RnaG and Lyric. They are catering for minority interests, not some vehicle for state approved messages. All the broadcasters are catering for minority interests, if you look into the JNLR. RTE stations get less than 50% of the listening audience in every geography, every age group, and every time division. Even Morning Ireland is only about 11% of the available audience, over 15 years of age. The other 89% are listening to other stations, or have found a better use for their time than listening to any radio. Not much need to worry about state control.

    RTÉ Radio 1



    • Morning Ireland is the most-listened-to radio programme in the country with 450,000 people tuning in each morning.

  • Registered Users Posts: 28,795 ✭✭✭✭end of the road

    there would be no listener base freed up for any private station from the closure of lyric, just not going to happen.

    even with 2fm it's debatable since that if it's listeners wanted to listen to the similar private stations they would already be doing so and they aren't most probably.

    cutting rte services won't bring new services or innovation realistically, putting an end to the forcing of stations to adopt the highest cost base model of doing radio along with the removal of the most expensive form of regulation possible might bring those.

    shut down alcohol action ireland now! end MUP today!

  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]

    I switched car earlier this year and can now pick up the BBC channels crystal clear. Most days I get home and wish I had a decent antenna in the house so I could keep listening, then by the time I'm sat in front of the TV I want TV alas. :P Point was going to be that wow, listening to properly formatted, professionally produced radio is so completely different to listening to Irish radio. I barely bothered with radio the last few years, stuck with streaming/YouTube but it's just because I was never exposed to decent radio.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    BBC Sounds App, the only way to go. Incredible content and, of course, all the BBC radio programmers. You’ll never look back 😀

  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]

    Yeah but will that not involve dicking about with a VPN etc.?

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭10000maniacs

    If you have Virgin Media, all of the BBC radio channels are "piped" down the cable in analogue.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Antenna

    In Dublin yes, but there are other parts of the country where this used to be the case (FM on cable) - it got discontinued ages ago

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    I use Google Nest, “Ok Google, play BBC Radio 4 from the BBC”, and off it goes. No VPN involved. I also have the BBC Sounds App on my phone. Works a treat on that, too. Hope this helps

  • Registered Users Posts: 80,374 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn

    Freesat official box or combo box has them too via satellite.

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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]

    Yeah so I signed up for the BBC Sounds App. Wasn't sure whether to be honest but I put in Ireland and it's grand. I wonder if I'm missing some archive stuff for some programmes maybe but it's been bloody faultless so far.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭JeffKenna

    The only problem with putting Ireland in is a lot of the live sports events are rights restricted. You'll need a VPN to listen to matches etc.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭seanin4711

    RTE Down listenership

    RTE response = look for TV license increase to camouflage the gap indefinitely.

    Main thing that galls me about radio in Ireland(lived abroad for may years USA, NZ & Australia) is the amount of ads on the "music stations" i-radio and spin etc.

    End up listening to Lyric as the other stations would melt if the played a non-Irish new song.

    Failing that its Tidal on the phone in the car.

    saves my sanity!!!