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The Guardian tells us that Christmas is saved by "rightwing politicians"

  • 02-12-2021 12:08am
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    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭ 72sheep



    Seems the EU would like the Late Late Toy Show to confine any references to the "holiday season" and most definitely not "Christmas". Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad thing?

    (Our own Peter Sutherland was also famously vocal about how EU nations should water down their national traditions. Peter, in his role as UN Migration rep, was always anxious to explain that the influx of cheap labour was primarily of benefit to EU communities, and most certainly not to enterprise. He was a true gent, ex-Chairman Goldman Sachs, and so there is absolutely no suggestion he was bought, paid for and lined-up as an Irish peasant for this role. It is blatantly obvious that, oh hang on,... LOL :-)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭ Quantum Erasure


    I wouldn't lay the blame entirely on the EU either

    Now Whitehall's woke 'blob' tries to ban Christmas: Ministers are warned using the word in festive jab drive will offend minorities

    Ministers had planned a publicity blitz telling students to get tested before returning to their families using the slogan: 'Don't take Covid home for Christmas' – but it was vetoed by Cabinet Office officials.

    and its got nothing to do with the Late Late either, but its all part of the same 'progressiveness' where we have a themed toy show the last friday of November, with little if any reference to christmas, in a christian sense, or even in a secular sense these days



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭ Peterteanh


    We had a phase in work a few years ago where the advice from above was to refer to it as the holiday season rather than Christmas. Literally no one was offended by it being called Christmas, so when even senior managers said holiday season, they'd always make a joke about not being allowed to say Christmas. It eventually died a death after a couple of years and now everyone says Christmas holidays/party/season again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭ 72sheep


    As always time will tell.

    (I suppose it's part of an 'acceptance phase' whenever a people start explaining to each other that the dilution of their traditions is in fact progress. Still it must be disorientating for children to see parents quietly acquiesce though.) 



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭ km991148


    "Still it must be disorientating for children to see parents quietly acquiesce though"

    Jesus Christ - that's a bit much!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    Using 'the holidays' is so as not to exclude non-Christians. Be a bit stupid to say happy Christmas to any Jewish, Muslim or Hindu folks.

    The right will jump on any aul bandwagon to rile up the inbred. Fox were at it as was Trump, 'save Christmas'. We can call it Christmas all we like. Just nice to included non Christians from time to time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭ 85603


    Nothingburger thread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭ Shao Kahn


    If it was created by white people, it must be destroyed. White man bad!

    The great thing about loony progressives, is that they always seem to shoot themselves in the foot if you're patient and just wait long enough. They can't help themselves going too far with their nonsense. Makes for great entertainment. 😆

    "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives, and it puts itself into our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." (John Wayne)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭ J.O. Farmer


    The holidays is an American term we see more over here now too. I'm not sure it was done to be more inclusive unless it was the Hallmark card company trying to be inclusive to sell more "Holiday" cards.



  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ The Quintessence Model


    No it wouldn't be stupid. Some of those people may celebrate Christmas aswell, more so for the cultural aspect then the religious.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    I know companies who use 'holidays" specifically to be inclusive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    Some. 'Holidays' covers everyone.

    I grew up smothered in Catholic shite. I don't like aspects of life still tipping the hat to the criminal church, Christmas is a holiday. I don't go to mass or think of baby Jesus much during it.

    We need to get out from under the religious stuff. Its embarrassing quite frankly.

    People can say Christmas if they like. I wouldn't say it to a non- Christian for fear of looking like a complete tool or a redneck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭ atticu


    How do you know if someone is a Christian or a non-Christian?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    Best to say 'happy holidays' so, right? Kinda the point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 662 ✭✭✭ atticu


    Why won’t you answer the question?


    How do you know if someone is a Christian or a non-Christian?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    If I said it to a non Christian and they thought I was too ignorant to give a ****, yes.

    Its a holiday season. If you are working or not won't change it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    You don't, so I'd advise 'happy holidays' is a better option. Again, that's kinda the point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    Never claimed it was anything other than being inclusive.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭ Brucie Bonus


    Is Christmas season not a holiday season? Its about inclusion not fear of upsetting. Happy Christmas to a Jewish person means **** all. Why bother?



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