Cocaine seizure - Dublin Port

Fakediamond

BIG cocaine seizure in Dublin Port tonight. I wonder can it top the €750 million found off the Cork coast in 2008?

McGarnigle2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058219622/cocaine-seizure-dublin-port

No news outlet reporting this yet?

Cocaine makes all the headlines as the moral panic drug but I'd reckon weed makes them more money these days. 15, 20 years ago your average stoner was weekly buying a 25 Q of hash, packing their joints light, making it last. These days it's an addiction out of control for so many who smoke it, costs a fortune, relatively low cost to produce etc. Few if anybody managing to get through 150 plus of soapbar 20 years ago the way so many kids would with weed today. Addictive, mind altering poison.

MrMusician18

Conor Lally is reporting it on twitter. More to follow.

BanditLuke

Good. Hopefully a few more finds over the next while.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218714#Comment_118218714

Hold on.. are you talking about Weed or Cocaine? Cause Weed isn't addictive.. no more than milk is addictive. The tobacco that Irish smokers tended to mix into the weed was what caused any kind of real addictions.. with the associations being made with weed..

Also your logic seems off... 15 20 years ago the average smoker packed it (light) to last because it was so difficult to get a hold of (regular supply being very unreliable), with cannabis/Diesel being the majority of the smoke market. If it's as common as you suggest now, why would it be so expensive? More supply usually results in a dropping of price due to increased competition, from that increased supply (in any case, weed is still relatively the same price in the Midlands as it was 20 years ago, just some slight inflation).

Weed has it's downsides, mostly related to paranoia, and memory loss... but it's not as bad as you make it out to be.

Now, cocaine on the other hand ruins lives. That's pure poison.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218836#Comment_118218836

A small bit naive to say weed isn't addictive.

Many people get addicted to it. You might try and isolate that to mean "weed on its own" isn't addictive, but that's not really a real world example. Plus although many more don't get technically addicted, they do have problems with its use (even if it's not an actual addiction).

I think they are both pretty terrible drugs in terms of harm. Those two plus alcohol really suck tbh.

Strumms

I’d make cocaine extinct before weed... never been into either but the sheer number of people who turn into cûntish smartarse aggressive dweebs after a few lines of coke... never seen people like that after a smoke.

Jequ0n

:(

Thelonious Monk

Everyone loves cocaine. It's not going away ever. Legalise it.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218714#Comment_118218714

bags of coke are miniscule in comparison, isnt pungent, easy to sell (too easy)

L1011

No White Christmas for lots, I hope

Dublin nightlife is ruined by the amount of cokeheads around.

Cocaine is vile. As strumms said, it destroys peoples' personalities, prolonged use will turn anyone bad. Then there's the crime along the way.. this isn't 'ooh that's a bit naughty' level crime.. it is people being fecking beheaded level crime. Then there is the mixing with other products and the risk to health. Coke is shite. More seizures please (no pun intended).

CDarby

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218836#Comment_118218836

Nonsense, of course weed is "addictive", just because most that try it won't become addicted doesn't take away from that fact.

Just like not everyone becomes an alcoholic does not negate from the fact alcohol is addictive.

A guy who shared a house with me in Dublin during my student years was addicted to the stuff (my opinion of course) over the course of 2 years I witnessed first hand how the initial nightly habit became after a one after work, followed later by another that night, which increasingly progressed over the year to having a few during the day, while neglecting his full-time job to the point of dropping out, choosing instead to fill his day in a haze of smoke in his room playing video games.

Last I heard, the guy had returned home to live with his widowed mother in rural Carlow, and had spent some time in hospital due to increasing bouts of paranoia and psychosis.

I'm no party pooper, far be it for me to get in any individuals choice to partake in any recreational activities legal or otherwise, but suggesting a scientifically proven substance isn't addictive is factually inaccurate.

Wanderer78

a few people will be murdered, and production will continue..... nothing to see here!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219001#Comment_118219001

I smoked weed for 6-8 years in heavy amounts, and I was able to stop immediately once I wanted to. Minor cravings, but nothing that couldn't be ignored. Whereas I started smoking tobacco when I was 14, and I'm still smoking tobacco now 30 years later, in spite of serious attempts to stop. There's a difference between a physical addiction to something, and a mental addiction.

Weed on it's own (no tobacco), or pure joints are the most common way I've seen people make them abroad, so yeah, it's a real world example. I love the hedging in your post. You say it's naive to say that weed isn't addictive, and then, repeatedly in your own post, say it's not addictive, but it is. sortof. Kinda. In a vague way...They don't get technically addicted. Yup.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219655#Comment_118219655

I'm no party pooper, far be it for me to get in any individuals choice to partake in any recreational activities legal or otherwise, but suggesting a scientifically proven substance isn't addictive is factually inaccurate

Yes... Weed is a "scientifically proven substance". And... as with km, the post is more hedging. As I said, it's as addictive as milk. Some people may become addicted to it, just as some people might become addicted to milk, but the majority do not.

Billy Mays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219776#Comment_118219776

This is bang on the money

People aren't addicted to weed, it's the tobacco they mix it with that they're addicted to.

MrMusician18

The value is something around €10m. A rounding error for those involved and won't be noticed.

BanditLuke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219651#Comment_118219651

Anyone who uses it has blood on their hands make no mistake about it. Pure scumbags.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219776#Comment_118219776

I regretted replying once I seen who I was replying to.. but I had already written it so here we go..

Let me clarify, so there is no hedging :)

There are problems for many people with weed. To say they are addicted, not necessarily for all people in this category. On its own, many people say weed is not addictive (but of course it is and many people are addicted to it - Your sample size of one here didn't cover this). And when you step back a bit and consider why people use weed (or other substances for that matter) the concept of addiction becomes quite complex - something you of course allude to with your mental vs physical stuff.

So to be absolutely clear - weed is addictive its silly to say otherwise and on top of that for many people they have problems with it even if they themselves are not addictive.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219821#Comment_118219821

for some, yes, for many not so much.

D3V!L

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/1125/1263054-port-drugs-seizure/

Gardai said the €5 million Euro seizure will damage the pockets of the criminals this Christmas. The two million euro of cocaine will be destroyed by an incinerator in order to take it off the streets.

A spokesman for An Garda Siochana said they are pleased with the 500k seizure but it's a mere splash in the ocean of the illegal drugs being brought into the state on a weekly basis.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118218836#Comment_118218836

Arsenic and cyanide are types of poison, cocaine is NOT, otherwise Elton John, Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton would all be dead, they took lots of it decades ago and they're still alive, well into their old age. If u check dictionary.com you won't see the word poison or poisonous in its definition. U may be entitled to ur opinion, as wrong as it is, but not your own facts.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220222#Comment_118220222

Anything is poison if you take enough of it. Paracetamol, aspirin etc.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220098#Comment_118220098

Anyone who supports the war on drugs has even more blood on their hands. It was attitudes like that which thought the Magdalene Laundries were a good idea, just a different type of fun that's being condemned.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220239#Comment_118220239

The definition of poison is anything which destroys/impairs life. The drugs you mentioned don't if taken in moderation, just like cocaine.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220273#Comment_118220273

What?

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219063#Comment_118219063

You don't have to socialize with them. How come so many people paid good money to listen to coke-users like Macca, Jagger, Elton John etc. How many people have paid to see u perform.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220273#Comment_118220273

If Ireland legalised all drugs tomorrow, do ya think the cartels and organised criminals who control the production of it on the ground would turn around and tell the people they control "ah here lads, we give up now. Ye can all go off and join the unions and participate in the free market economy".

The only people legalising it would make any difference to are the low-level people selling it on the streets and the users. Even then it would only be in terms of law enforcement. Their current bosses would still be their bosses.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220320#Comment_118220320

Years ago, if a single lady wanted to have a different type of fun with her body (sexual intercourse) she was condemned and punished by the brainwashed society of the time. Thankfully that has changed, now it's drug use that's condemned. Do u understand?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220101#Comment_118220101

Everything is potentially addictive, depending on the individual involved.

Weed is only addictive due to the pleasure associated with it, and can be easily given up. How often do you hear of weed users stealing to maintain that habit? It doesn't happen, unless they're also using other drugs in addition to weed.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220222#Comment_118220222

LOL. You're right, Cocaine is not a poison, in the literal sense.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220359#Comment_118220359

No I don't understand.

You said "Anyone who supports the war on drugs has even more blood on their hands".

Where's the blood?

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220341#Comment_118220341

Unlike You I don't have a crystal ball, will u lend it to me, I wanna get the winning lottery numbers. If those criminals turned to other types of crimes, we would have a redundant drug squad who could pursue them for any nefarious activities. Let's try it before we knock it, if it doesn't work, revert to prohibition

Effects

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219651#Comment_118219651

It's the same gangs bringing in weed and coke, so same "people being beheaded" crime really.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220386#Comment_118220386

Your support of this unwinnable war on drugs causes causes the gangland deaths. That's where the blood is. Legalize.

BronsonTB

Dissappointingly No arrests :(

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220335#Comment_118220335

Trust me I don’t but I don’t get to decide who goes into certain pubs / venues around the country and then try to either ingratiate themselves into your company or act the General fûckwit in other confrontational scenarios.

and because a lot of famous and talented people, in the field did coke it should be ok for everyone to do it ? Interesting argument..

They certainly can afford the best help if things go arse over tit anyway.... don’t have to worry about mortgages, car loan, bringing the kids to school.

thefallingman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118219821#Comment_118219821

having a couple of pure weed pipes a day is a great way to give up smoking tobacco too, once over the initial glum and withdrawal of nicotine after 2 months its easy to knock the pure weed pipe on the head if that's what you want.(so i've heard ! )

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220411#Comment_118220411

One doesn't need a crystal ball to be able to see beyond one step in a nonsensical "plan" (which is no more than parroting a buzzword or phrase heard elsewhere).

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220458#Comment_118220458

Coke-users ingratiate with other users. Non-coke users are often bigger fuckwits. I've admired your comments on the Dublin GAA thread, but you must have heard that coke-users have taken it in the toilets of Hill 16.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220516#Comment_118220516

Cokeheads get on with other cokeheads. That's it

They're obnoxious to absolutely everyone else. Aggressive, mouthy, hair-trigger anger and so on.

Drug for twats to become super-twats.

Strumms

:) coke use is fairly widespread, id wager it’s in every pub in the country almost by now....

my local pub had to be swift to weed a certain element of aggressive coke dickhead out and had their security threatened in the process... a nice welcoming pub that began to get a bit out of hand on weekends at times as the ‘heads’ got barred from less salubrious establishments in the area. Security were visiting the bathrooms...as were Gardai who were doing the odd walk in / walk around ... the pub is owned by a well respected ex Garda and the other brother moves in political circles so there I’m sure was some influence in that I’d ‘guess’, but within weeks the coke users disappeared as fast as they arrived. I’m sure there would still be the odd one but tables of ‘heads’ is certainly a thing of the past..

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220531#Comment_118220531

So how come Paul McCartney, Keith Richards, Kate Moss, Nigella Lawson etc are millionaires. Obviously at lot of people don't share your opinion and they pay good money to make them rich. How many people would people would pay to listen to your opinions on coke.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220581#Comment_118220581

Being a millionaire doesn't stop you being an asocial, aggressive twat on coke. And I'm fairly sure they all are.

Its a twats drug.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220581#Comment_118220581

How come George Best was an alcoholic millionaire yet all the dipsos down in the local early house can't even get their game for the Irish national senior soccer team.

And that is saying something.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220487#Comment_118220487

It's about 50 years since Nixon declared the War on Drugs, it took 6 to defeat Hitler. decades before that the USA tried to prohibit alcohol, how did that work out. Do you think this PLAN, the War on Drugs is working. Do u still believe that man who comes down the chimney in December is real.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220614#Comment_118220614

Apparently murder is against the law too. It was even in common law before there were any statutes against it. And how has that worked? Obviously making it illegal hasn't worked because people are still murdered.

Maybe we should legalise murder so? Following your logic

Unless ya believe in Santy Claus ya must agree with me?

Tomaldo

Apples and Oranges, Murder involves a non-consenting victim, Buying and selling coke is consensual. Big difference.

Tomaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220636#Comment_118220636

Apples and Oranges, Murder involves a non-consenting victim, Buying and selling coke is consensual. Big difference.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118220656#Comment_118220656

No it doesn't have to. Consent is not a defence against the statute of murder. You can tell me that you don't want to live any more and I can go to your house, and with your consent, shoot you in the head. I will still be found guilty of murder if it is proven that I did that.

As a recent well known example, Graham Dwyer allegedly murdered that poor lady with her consent.

If course people become addicted to weed. Nicotine is highly addictive, but yet I can take up a cigarette and not take another for 6 months. I'm not addicted. I can drink today and not again for months, I'm not addicted.

But they are both addictive substances, saying people don't become addicted to them because I havent, is just wrong.