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Anybody tried Opioids Legally (watching Dopesick at the moment)

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  • 22-11-2021 10:06am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if anybody has taken opioids (OxyContin etc) assuming this is only available on prescription in the US.

    Currently watching Dopesick, story of the opioid crisis in the US, and curious about the drug and how it all escalated to massive addition levels

    I am only talking about legally prescribed not bought on sheriff street



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  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭Irish_wolf


    Anyone who has taken Neurofen plus has taken an over the counter opioid. So probably a hell of a lot of people in Ireland. I have only taken them a couple of times as I dont think they are particularly necessary when a paracetamol will usually do the trick. But when you need an actual painkiller they do pack a punch although I would wager it's not even in the same league as OxyContin. I actually try to avoid them for the main reason that I don't want to develop an addiction, it took me near 5 years of failed attempts to finally quit smoking so I know my brain when it comes to addictive substances.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,810 ✭✭✭phill106


    nurofen plus has codeine and available over the counter. Have taken that as well as something called soldapol, a soluble paracetemol codeine one.

    Have taken both, they would seem to be quite common.



  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Real Life


    Ive had a number of surgeries over the years and always been put on Morphine afterwards while in hospital and sent home with a few weeks supply of Oxycontin. Feels amazing while taking it, especially when you're in pain. But I never struggled to come off it thankfully, always just took my prescribed dose but I can see how easy it would be to get addicted to it.


    I havent seen the documentary you're talking about but I think they are probably more freely giving out in the US.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,169 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Thankfully no!

    A good show which highlights how devious and evil big pharma can be.

    If you can track it down, Louis Theroux did a very good doc on the issuehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2017/41/louis-theroux



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,927 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Smoked opium once, it was in Portugal so probably wasn't illegal. Great fun.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,944 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Took Benylin a couple of times. I’m also partial to poppy seed bagels.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    had morphine and oxycotin in hospital

    I can absolutely appreciate why someone would become addicted to these meds, they're unreal haha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Had to take oxycontin for a few months a number of years back, didn't get addicted. Was given kettemine immediately by paramedics after the injury, now that is a drug

    Ireland is the polar opposite of America when it comes to prescription of pain killers, doctors underprescribe and have a philosophy that pain is almost good for the soul .


    I live with chronic pain so know a little about the subject



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Paracetamol barely helps with a bad headache, it's an insult to patients to prescribe it yet its what's often doled out in hospital after people get bad fractures



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    I was prescribed Tramadol when I had really bad sciatica. I naively took two at lunch time in work and spent the rest of the afternoon zonked off my head. After that episode I only took them in the evening before bed, and I took paracetamol and difene early in the day.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    For various minor injuries / minor surgery:

    Tramadol, both on its own and Ixprim with paracetamol - these are fine for me, but I'm fairly sure people can get addicted to this form too.

    Oxycontin - horrific. Gave me the worst hangover I've ever had and all without touching a drop.

    The OTC products here have tiny amounts in them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,561 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Take OxyContin and OxyNorm as part of a pain control regime. In addition to other neuropathic meds.

    Incredibly effective pain relief but one I still use sparingly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I pulled a muscle in my back and was in bits for days. My wife suggested I try one of her pain killers, prescribed pre op for assembly hip surgery she had. I can’t recall the name but holy shīt they were strong. The best way i can describe it is that everything felt like I was s looking at it through a window. I didn’t like the affect though it did completely eradicate the pain.

    Obviously as soon as they wore off the pain came roaring back so I took that as a sign this wasn’t a “usual” muscle sprain/pull and went to the GP.


    she told me afterwards they were almost too strong for her pain too.


    -edit- tramadol! That was them!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Tramadol isn't especially strong but people react differently to meds

    Difeine doesn't agree with me at all despite being commonly prescribed as an anti inflammatory



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭katherineconlan


    The first opioid I tried was Nurofen Plus (codeine) a few years back when I was 18. Then went on a J1 to the States and tried some Vicodin (hydrocodone). Some strong ****.

    It's funny how they have the same chemical compound but totally different effects. The Vicodin came on in 10 minutes and felt stimulating whereas the codeine took an hour and made me feel much more 'woozy'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭katherineconlan


    Tramadol and codeine are prodrugs and thus don't even work on some people as they don't have the liver enzymes required to metabolize them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    Was prescribed oxycodone after a surgery. Prescribed enough for 5 days and advised to take only if needed.


    Worked to get rid of the pain, but only took it for 2 days and swapped over to an over to Ibobrufen as that controlled the pain just fine.. Did it give me a buzz ? Nope but I was on relatively low dose and only for a short time.


    It would surprise you how often its prescribed..


    Opiods are very good at what they do when prescribed and used correctly but tollerance build relatively quickly. In my experience most doctors are very careful about prescribing them but I have heard one or 2 anecdotal stories..


    However for years we had too open availability of codeine over the counter. Even now its too easy get..



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭katherineconlan


    Codeine has a ceiling dose compared to other opioids. Exceeding 400mg of codeine doesn't increase the euphoric/analgesic relief and just brings more side effects.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have you never even taken an opiate based pain killer?

    I had a perforated ear drum when I was 17/18 - the pain was excruciating. And I had to get it drained every second day, which just added to the pain. I was hoovering up the codeine. Tried anti inflammatories but they just didn't do the trick like codeine did.

    I only once got anything beyond pain relief - a floaty, dreamy feeling, with sounds in the same room seeming echoey and faraway.



  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've had Tramadol (an opiate, but not a true opiate) a few times. Great pain relief, but I was out of my bin altogether.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Had Oxy and morphine in hospital last year after surgery. Can easily see how someone would come addicted to both as I really enjoyed it. Take nurofen plus maybe once or twice a year if I get really bad migraine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Had a morphine patches for a few days once. I never slept so well in my life.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have had OxyContin, Oxynorm, Fentenol after major surgeries and for very unpleasant medical procedures and at a time where I had severe skin ulceration. I have been in such pain during highest dosages that I did not be one anywhere near being addicted, and the only time I would have maybe noticed becoming marginally find of it was when the surgical pain was waning and wasn’t meriting opioids any longer, but that’s the very time it has to be withdrawn and pain dealt with by paracetamol and moving out and about. Getting moving is then the best medicine for recovery and avoiding chance of addiction.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,169 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Oh, I have had an opiod then.

    I have taken codeine before.

    And also had morphine in hospital.

    And Kapake as well.

    All needed at various times, but don't remember missing them when they were stopped. Must not have been on them long enough.


    I was also given a tablet once for sciatica. Not sure of its name. It really spaced me out. I remember driving the car the next morning, and I felt as if I was out of my body and watching myself from outside the car. Very strange. Called the gp and he told me to take no more.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    OP, break your arm with the bone popping out and rock up to a and e and they'll give you some after. Have fun.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Had my tonsils out in my mid 30s.

    Was sent home with solpadol. Mighty stuff to say the least.

    Had about 10 days of pain, the first few were severe. I was clockwatching so i could get my next dose.

    Mrs Bloggs is a nurse so she made me reduce the dose after 5 or 6 days once the worst of the pain was over even though i had a two week supply



  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Slick666


    I became addicted to Nurofen plus. They ruled my life for a few years. I couldn't go anywhere without looking for a chemist and Id travel to different chemists so the workers wouldn't recognise me. It finally came to a head during lock down when I couldn't travel, I finally had to get help from a drug addiction service. And now I'm happy to say I'm codeine free with nearly 12 months. When I started taking them, yeah they felt nice. But near the end, I had to take them just for survival. Horrible nasty drugs and glad I'm free of them now :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,860 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well done Slick, on and up.

    I had a biblical four-alarm hangover on holidays once, my mate's girlfriend with us was a pharmacist and she slipped me a couple of solpadol, absolute gift of a cure but near knocked me out.

    I also had morphine with a side of nitrous and oxygen for a complex ankle break and dislocation just before and for a while after it was operated on. Combined it was enough to stop me feeling any pain from my left foot positioned at a heading of 240 and my shattered joint.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Pineapplez56


    Had a very serious injury a few years ago they put me on morphine and fentanyl going into hospital in the ambulance was proper out of it but definitely didn’t feel any pain! That was until I woke up and had to get another dose! Got a ketamine drip after that was much better as the other two just had me feeling nauseous and very sick/dizzy whenever I moved my head around my sister had a great laugh at me in the hospital.. got prescribed OxyContin for a few weeks when I was able to leave the hospital wasn’t a fan of them they just made me not be able to think properly snd felt kind of nauseated over them don’t know how people would want to take them all the time for pain yes they’re good for it but damn I couldn’t function as a person doing them everyday moved to rely on paracetamol and neurophen after.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    I had morphine after surgery years ago. I felt f*cking wonderful.



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