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Work going to short term

  • 30-10-2021 11:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭


    The place where I work is moving to a 4 day week for the next few months and we can sign on to social welfare to make up the missing pay.

    Apparently though most weeks (but not all) I will only be doing 3 days - because when I’m involved nothing is just simple and straightforward. :p

    Would social welfare also have other people in this situation? Would I just contact them week to week to let them know what hours I work?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭mystic


    You should make a claim for Casual Jobseekers Benefit/Allowance. You submit dockets every week stating the number of days you work. This can be done online too. https://www.gov.ie/pdf/?file=https://assets.gov.ie/83489/c9c732ac-5bb7-49c4-be91-8816c771bc11.pdf#page=null

    If you work more than three days a week you won't get a payment for that week.

    Your employer may be asked to submit a form detailing the days you worked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I agree with @mystic your employers may not be aware that it's not as simple as contacting SW every week you work 3 days, nor do they seem aware they will be required to sign weekly forms your required to submit.

    If this is going to be a long term arrangement, it would be more practical to do one application, get on the system, submit forms weekly etc. For weeks OP works 4 days, no payment, for weeks OP works 3 days, payment for two days (I believe daily rate approx €40 per day)

    Sign on once and go from there rather than signing on multiple times, which would be messy and lead to delays in payment.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Sorry I should have phrased some of my original post better.

    By “contacting welfare week to week” I meant contacting about the hours worked, not signing on every time.

    This is something the employer does every year so I assume they know about these weekly forms to sign. and as far as I know this short term will be until February or March.

    What you say about not getting paid if I work 4 days has me confused - the HR announcement about short term said that staff could sign on for hours lost because the 5th working day was gone.

    Clearly they made an error in that announcement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Do you know how often I would have to go to the welfare office?

    Also would I have to sign on in the nearest welfare office or could I choose another?

    I would be getting the bus and the nearest to me is in a small town with awkward bus times. A further one in a bigger town would be easier to get to and back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Morning, I just wanted to point out you'd actually have to literally go through a signing on process every time your claiming reduced hours and if this is going to go on for weeks, months it would make no sense to be contacting SW to go through application process and have to wait to be approved if that makes sense.

    I've no idea where your employer is getting information on a 5th day, the rules , I believe are , if your working 4 days, your entitled to no payment, but if working 3 you are.

    Unless something has changed re applying for reduced hours, perhaps SW can leave a claim open ended (I don't believe so) , it would appear once your hours reduce ,do an application, leave it open submit work sheets weekly and go from there.

    You are actually not required to sign on at SW centres but must submit forms either into their mailbox (now internal at intero centres) or online through mywelfare account.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭mystic


    You can apply online using a mywelfare account. https://services.mywelfare.ie/en/topics/out-of-work-payments/apply-for-jobseeker-s-payment/

    if you can't apply online you have to go to your local Intreo centre. You don't have a choice which one to go to as it's determined by your address. The casual dockets cam be posted every week.



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