Restaurants/Hotels not asking for Covid Certs should be named and shamed.

jake frost

The hospitality sector are moaning again constantly for the last 18 months, yet most of them I have been in have not bothered to ask for my Covid Cert. The CMO Tony Holohan was correct in saying that restaurants who don't ask for Covid Cert should be boycotted.

Avon8

Get a life

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058214140/restaurants-hotels-not-asking-for-covid-certs-should-be-named-and-shamed

Why didn't you boycott them when you didn't get asked for your cert.

It would be great to see them named and advertised, people will know where to go drinking without having to be reminded of the gestapo.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052069#Comment_118052069

If drinking reminds people of the gestapo they need help.

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052080#Comment_118052080

It doesn't. But I guess this is over your head.

BronsonTB

Most don't bother so might be eaiser to name the ones that do obey & ask for cert details?

Better to give the good places the publicity than the bad ones....

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058214140/restaurants-hotels-not-asking-for-covid-certs-should-be-named-and-shamed

Numbers in that sector range from 200,000 to 300,000 and it's a €3bn+ industry. Where are you planning to name and shame them? In the sewers of social media?

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052121#Comment_118052121

I guess it would need to be a portal / hotline.

jake frost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052106#Comment_118052106

Good Idea... Name the responsible ones.

giveitholly

The fact that someone started a thread like this and it's still open says it all about this country,some people love these restrictions and are nothing but snobby curtain twitchers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052199#Comment_118052199

Perfectly content to rat out other people cobbling together a living, not one ounce of shame on them. I wouldn't go as far as referencing the third reich, however the spectre of the Catholic church looms over this country. A nation of self-loathing spies who revel in the misery of others.

For a second I thought I was back on thejournal.ie

I for one think they should be 'named and shamed'.Although I suspect the outcome of that would be different to what the OP might expect.

Russman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052199#Comment_118052199

Nobody anywhere likes restrictions.

I wouldn't go the route of naming and shaming, that's not going to happen.

But like every pointless argument about covid, depending on your point of view, the exact same situation could be described as "we gave up 18 months of our lives to protect whatever, we're going off the leash now" or "I spent 18 months adhering to the rules, these guys are just back open and they're flouting them".

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052240#Comment_118052240

Wannabe scabs the lot of them.

Dhenalau

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058214140/restaurants-hotels-not-asking-for-covid-certs-should-be-named-and-shamed

I think that if you are unhappy with a restaurant or pub COVID policy, you can just leave a comment on Google review, no need to go to such extremes.

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052267#Comment_118052267

The only people flouting the rules are the unvacced going into pubs.

They should be targeted.

Tired332

F#%k sake get alife , I go into a restaurant to eat or a pub to drink not check out someone's choice of vaccine status. Little to be at some of ye ,18months into this and the same **** different day on here. Small Businesses/pubs have been closed far too long and need all the support they can get not a bunch of cry babies with bad intentions to shut them down.

SupplyandDemandZone

Put a list up so i know where to go OP.

FFVII

Honestly...coming in here I was expecting everyone to agree with OP. I'm nearly shocked!

ShooterSF

Wow that is some reactions! I'm lucky to work in a bar where we take this serious and I've lost a lot of respect for some owners in my town because of how lax they are handling the issue. From a selfish perspective, they put my job at risk by helping drive case numbers up and almost left a load of nightclub staff out of work with their actions. On a humanitarian level, some of their staff have no choice but to go in to work there, especially as the PUP is removed, and NO employer in ANY industry should be applauded for having staff work in an unsafe environment. Sure, most of us are vaccinated, a lot of us are young and healthy, not all but a lot, but that doesn't take away from the increased risk in a pandemic to making staff sick. It would be like seeing a business making their staff use a rickety step ladder, ah sure if they fall it isn't gonna kill them. No f you! Look after your staff.

robbiezero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056231#Comment_118056231

By how much are the unvaxed in pubs driving up cases - probably SFA, but they are a handy scapegoat?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118052063#Comment_118052063

Get a vaccine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056304#Comment_118056304

Half of all covid patients in ICU are unvaccinated. That's from 8% of the adult population. The other half are from the other 92%. Do you see the problem?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118055782#Comment_118055782

Don't be, hardly surprising given some of the other quite extraordinary reactions to basic measures.

I wouldn't personally subscribe to naming and shaming, Google reviews as someone mentioned a good alternative but I'll let my feet doing the talking so to speak. Besides there'll be compliance for about a week, there'll be high profile inspections over the coming weekend with photographers brought along for good measure, come Tuesday, we'll hear no more about inspections.

robbiezero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056316#Comment_118056316

Yes. There is a much bigger chance of getting sick from Covid if you are unvaccinated. Doesn't answer my question and doesn't answer the question of why someone who is vaccinated should give a crap about the unvaccinated.

Marty Bird

Yet OP when I pay to say in a hotel, my vaccination status goes out the window which I will be doing shortly as a unvaccinated citizen.

Eating and drinking and mixing with the everyone.

Follow the science..

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056316#Comment_118056316

I've seen some anti vaxxers on twitter, 'so it's half and half'. Sigh no wonder them doing their own critical thinking worked out how it did.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056441#Comment_118056441

We did follow the science and created a vaccine. Which allowed us to start opening society.

joe40

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056441#Comment_118056441

What science would that be?

Marty Bird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056517#Comment_118056517

The science behind the reason that allows an unvaccinated person like myself eat and drink indoors provided I’m paying, which I will be doing very shortly.

In this together..😎

YFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056441#Comment_118056441

Follow the maths.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056316#Comment_118056316

41% in ICU fully vaccinated. Do you see the problem?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056587#Comment_118056587

If the vaccines were duds then it would be 92% vaccinated in the ICU as it would be relative to the population. That's how maths and science work

Ozvaldo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058214140/restaurants-hotels-not-asking-for-covid-certs-should-be-named-and-shamed

Cool story bro.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056619#Comment_118056619

I dont care how the science and maths work. We have people complaining that most of the ICU beds are being taken up by unvaccinated people which is bullshit. People are trying to blame the unvaccinated for the overcrowding in hospitals when our health system has been fu@ked for years. Every winter our hospitals are overcrowded and if the HSE or government dont sort out our health system after this they never will

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056658#Comment_118056658

You lost me at "I dont care how the science and maths work. "

YFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056658#Comment_118056658

How is it bullshit?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056706#Comment_118056706

It is bullshit. When have people coming out saying that most of the ICU beds are being taken up by the unvaccinated which is untrue. HSE numbers released yesterday show 52% are not vaccinated, 41% fully vaccinated and 5% partially vaccinated

YFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056722#Comment_118056722

Your figures have just indicate it is bullshit. And that is even ignoring that 92% are vaccinated.

ninebeanrows

Only places I go to that dont ask me are ones I've beem to numerous times and showed the cert few months ago.

You're hardly going to keep asking locals for their certs every day. So maybe this is why people think places are lax?

FFVII

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056316#Comment_118056316

Are 100% of people in ICU in there directly because of covid?

FFVII

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118056658#Comment_118056658

They weren't crowded this year.

Look up the trolley watch figures compared to years previous.

Marty Bird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057000#Comment_118057000

Thank you, I’ll see you at the bar put on that green jersey so I know it’s you.

This is us..

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057045#Comment_118057045

Great fair play.

I'll see if I can spot you smugly sipping a pint and thinking you've pulled a fast one by having to pay for a hotel to have a drink in peace😘

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057001#Comment_118057001

They weren't crowded because society was closed. The unvaccinated are not the cause of trolley counts.

SupplyandDemandZone

The Republic of Curtain Twitchers.

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057000#Comment_118057000

The numerous pubs near me have not been checking for months, and won't be going back to it.

It wouldn't be at the back of anybodies mind around here.

In any case any bit of a fake cert will do anyway.

Marty Bird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057082#Comment_118057082

Why would I think I pulled a fast one ? Those are the rules and as covid conscious citizen, I will fully abide by them while I eat and drink and be merry with my fellow citizens😎

The New Normal Stay safe..

Nyero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057127#Comment_118057127

And if you fancy a regular pub just download a fake cert. or go into one of the many places that couldn't be arsed checking.

Backstreet Moyes

I saw a group of 8 or 9 going into the pub last Saturday a few of them are regulars.

One of them did not have his papers supposedly he didn't know how to get it scanned on the app, probably a lie and he just didn't bother get vaccinated.

So all of them went off somewhere else.

If you are an owner who has struggled for so long, that is a few hundred he would have took in that is now gone because he enforced checking everyone that goes into the pub.

I really don't blame pubs that don't enforce this to be honest.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057492#Comment_118057492

Sounds like a pain. Glad none of the lads are part of the "do my own research" gang, I couldn't be going pub to pub like that!