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Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) Vaccine

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭ funnydoggy


    Not in an at-risk group and got the J&J shot a few months ago when it was made available for younger adults. I'd much rather see a vaccine go to somebody who desperately needs it, than as a booster for me. I'll wait for govt/NIAC advice but I am not in any rush right now as the vaccine is still a very effective one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    I'd be perfectly comfortable taking a second shot of it. In reality, it should have been a 2 shot vaccine to begin with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    Well, the first one worked well enough anyway and the single dose was a huge speed boost for any programme. Be a surprise to see it be offered as a second/booster dose and mRNA would be more likely IMO. Not sure we will necessarily get to that stage anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭ Skipduke


    Anywhere doing the J&j in Ireland now ? Have someone with a severe fear of needles



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,453 ✭✭✭✭ WoollyRedHat




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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭ astrofool


    I think it's more the reduction in injections (1 instead of 2), J&J seems finished but a few people found them at pharmacies.

    I wouldn't recommend it, but getting 1 dose of Pfizer/Moderna will be better than 0 doses (and you can always work on getting a second dose later down the line, larger gaps can help). If it's from a COVID cert perspective, just figure out how to get 2 injections into them (and that's saying it like it's simple when for people with a fear of something, it definitely isn't).



  • Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭ Parachutes


    Why should have it been a two shot? Where are you basing this from? Or do you just really enjoy taking shots.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Damari Ripe Somebody


    A recent preprint has it's efficacy against symptomatic infection dropping to 3%.

    If they had run the trial over a longer period and submitted that kind of data for approval, it would not be in use as a single dose vaccine. Their own data is better, but realistically, anyone over 50 that got it, should be getting another dose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ Azatadine


    Yep, and I'm scraping over 50.....and would gladly take a second dose of Janssen or a dose of Pfizer or Moderna.

    It does feel like the Janssen recipients in Ireland are somewhat forgotten about as I don't hear much about boosters for them (and they arguably need them more than AZ).



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭ afatbollix


    I'm on the two shot trial for the Janssen vaccine.

    Great to hear of such great results! I'll be monitored for 2 years and have anti body tests each month.

    Works great! Turns out I spent a weekend with a family and a couple of kids had Covid recently and all tests came back negative and no symptoms!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭ astrofool


    Is the 2 shot trial the single dose twice or is the formulation different? Can you get a vaccine certificate for it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,031 ✭✭✭ eigrod


    I got the Janssen at end of May. I tested positive on 12th October having had symptoms of a heavy cold and cough, no temperature. My 3 close contacts-, wife & 2 sons, didn’t contract it. I guess the vaccine did its job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ random_banter


    Glad to see a thread on this. My mother is mid 60’s so recommended for a booster when the time comes, but got a Jannsen first time around.

    She’s allergic to a preservative in the Pfizer vaccine. In the UK, they avoided giving Pfizer to people with this allergy but here they have no policy regarding that allergy. So she had to push to get a J&J from the HSE when her time came.

    She’s very conscious of covid and still nervous about it, so I’d love to see her get a booster - but she can’t take the Pfizer. And there’s nothing out there about J&J recipients. The GP knows nothing about it either and can’t help. Limbo indeed!



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Damari Ripe Somebody


    Is the same preservative in Moderna? Not sure if we still have any of that, but might be an option.

    It's probably a bit short sighted for us to become too reliant on Pfizer, especially as Moderna's 6 month efficacy is holding strongest of those available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,107 ✭✭✭✭ astrofool


    I think Moderna is still available, the contract certainly has lots of deliveries left and their Swiss plant isn't that long online, I wonder if the time will come when some of the adenovector vaccines might be available privately. Other than that it's waiting for Novavax (and hoping they don't use the same preservative).

    The fact that the HSE isn't listing it as an issue may indicate that the amount of the preservative is too small to be of issue for those allergic, but you really need a well trained doctor/consultant to make that determination (i.e. don't rely on the internet and that's understanding that it's hard to find some qualified to make that determination).



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    HSE may be a better place to check on that. There is nothing about J&J because almost all of them are in the under 60s and there are no plans to offer boosters to anyone in younger age groups yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭ Barney224


    I think I have symptoms as well and I got J&J in July. I'm giong to go for a test tomorrow.

    BTW, were you told to self-isolate for 10 days?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,031 ✭✭✭ eigrod


    Yes. But back dated to the date i first experienced symptoms, which was about 5 days before i got the contact tracing call as i waited a few days to get tested.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭ afatbollix


    It was a single dose twice, 3 months apart.

    I was able to get a vaccine cert, We had to kick up a fuss to get them at the beginning but it's essentially a letter saying we had an approved vaccine and I haven't had issues in the 4 countries I have visited. Most people just look to see if you have had a jab and that's all they care about. I had more questions getting into Ireland in May as I had just been unblinded and the vaccine passports were still an idea and I didn't have a vaccine card that they gave out as I wasn't told at the time what I had.



  • Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭ keno-daytrader


    Considering how long NIAC take to make decisions I wouldnt hold out any hope they they will consider a second jab for J and J single dose people any time soon. I hope Im wrong.


    The US is now recommending a second jab for anyone in the US who only got the single dose J and J.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    We are more likely to see an mRNA option offered instead and it depends how useful they think it is moving into the under 60s for boosters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭ Goldengirl


    Polyethylene glycol ( PEG ) is the ingredient in Pfizer that can cause issues and is the same in Moderna . The two adenovector vaccines that were used here , J and J , and AZ don't have this but really your mother will most likely have to get a referral from your doctor to an immunologist/ allergy specialist and have them decide what to do.

    There must be some supplies left somewhere in the country of J and J or Moderna ,for just this reason.



  • Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭ keno-daytrader


    People aged 50-60 were given J & J in May, so they will be over 6 months any day now with only one jab, why do NIAC continue to delay and delay when it comes to peoples risk of covid? These people only have one JAB!


    J & J and the FDA in America are now saying that J and J should be at least a 2 dose vaccine.

    Wake up NIAC and please do your job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    NIAC wait for the EMA and as the EU is not going to buy any more J&J it'll be mRNA boosters if any at all. It would be well after Christmas even if they decided to recommend it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭ keno-daytrader


    I understand it will be an MRNA booster for anyone now in Ireland, NIAC have already authorized heterologous vaccine mixing.

    You will have within 2 weeks a large cohort of people (50-60 year olds) who will be over 6 months with only 1 jab, that is my point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭ Danno


    I got J&J in late-August, it should see me over the winter. Do not want a mRNA vaccine, or not keen on another jab either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭ Amadan Dubh


    +1


    It's enough to get us through this 4th wave and after that, we will be in the spring when there is a lot lower transmission. As such, this is the final push with covid as far as I can see so by the time it actually comes to even recommend boosters for us, covid will be in the back mirror.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭ Danno


    Looking at the way things are going now, I'm delighted I left it so late in the programme to get vaccinated, however if I was unvaccinated still and looking at how things are currently going, I wouldn't even bother with getting vaccinated. It looks like we were sold a pup in general with regards to how things would look like post 90% vaccination rates.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,141 ✭✭✭✭ is_that_so


    Yeah, but they are far less likely to have the same risk levels as far older or more at risk people. The aim is to get them to those who need them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭ keno-daytrader


    Mícheál Lehane  @MichealLehane

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    The more than 600,000 people aged between 50 and 59 are likely to be eligible soon to receive a vaccine booster under NIAC advice going to Government later, this amid warnings from NPHET that covid cases in hospitals will continue to rise in the coming weeks.



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